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Comment by 62697

New fish added to the The Forlorn Cavern in Ironforge.

Comment by 44004

This is actually a really good item for a lvl 19 warlock or other caster twink.

Comment by 101395

Seems like both these fish have a very low drop rate.

But I did find something out about them.
1.) They are not rare spawned pools (ie a single fish in a pool named old ironjaw). I thought that after catching around 300 fish with no luck. So having the track fish book will not help you at all.
2.) They can be caught in The Forlorn Cavern in Ironforge for Old Ironjaw or in Org for Old Crafty.
3.) There is no logic behind them, they are just very low drops. They are not like spawned mobs.
4.) Caught 300 Mud Snappers, 150 Catfish and 80 Smallfish before I got my hands on one.

Comment by greystoker

Do you need to be of a specific faction? I'd like to know if I can take my Dwarf into Org and try to catch it. Yes, I have that much time on my hands...

Comment by 108712

Caught Old Ironjaw last night and the pool outside The Forlorn Cavern on my undead rogue...took me 462 casts and a few hours,aswell as a few corpse runs after being ganked.gonna go for the Org fish next

Comment by 108768

Got Ironjaw while lvling fishing, got 225 skill before I got this fish.

I uploaded screen shot, it is waiting approval.

/cheer

Comment by 43226

Took just under 500 catches to snag this. Im a hordie, so I took a few deaths on my server, Cenarion Circle, but for the most part Alliance left me alone. Like Chav, going for Old Crafty next, and maxing out my fishing skill as well.

Comment by shootstokill

I managed to catch one, in the pond of the mystic ward, took me 700 catches to get it, i have fished atleast another 300 fish there since, but no luck catching another one.

Comment by Kabby

Tips for HORDE fishing Old Ironjaw

Fish while /sleeping to look slightly less conspicuous.
Be prepared to click "OK" on a "Looting this item will bind it to you" dialog box. This dialog box appears regardless of whether you're in a group, and if you cast again before clicking OK, you will not loot the fish.
Turn off the display of your title to make your bright red name smaller.
The easiest, most out of the way place to fish from is the Forlorn Cavern. Most alliance traffic will be coming from the West, so fish from the Southwest corner of the Forlorn Cavern. I recommend riding through Stormwind (either through the front or through the new harbor) to take the tram into Ironforge instead of the densely populated front entrance.
Bring some Elixirs of Camouflage. Most of the alliance who gave me trouble were hunters and druids who had track humanoids on. Using this elixir will reduce ganking. Edit: Or, if you are a hunter, you can use Aspect of the Beast (Thanks, Arhippa!)
Have at least 4 empty bag slots; the more you have, the better.
If you are not at max fishing skill, make sure your skill is not capped. You will probably do quite a lot of fish catching, so you may as well get skill points for it.
Be patient! It took me 943 catches to get him, which is about 4 hours of fishing. This will quite probably take you a long time, so don't set out to do it one sitting. If gankers are persistent, be prepared to log out and play another character or do something else.

Good luck!

Comment by VanCleef

The Orgrimmar equivalent is Old Crafty.

Comment by Jel251

Leveling fishing while trying to catch this guy as I type this, I'm at 92 fishing with no luck.

Comment by Vythika

Just fished this guy out of the Great Forge (52,47)!

LMFAO! >.<

Shame it's BoP...

I think I was extremely lucky in that I caught him in about 25-30 casts.

Comment by 136887

Tauren Druid on Xavius
1000 catches
Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper x617
Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish x199
Raw Brilliant Smallfish x173
19 Pound Catfish x2
Lesser Mana Potion x3
Lesser Healing Potion x3
Bloated Mud Snapper x2
Green (Mail) Legs (x1)

6 hours in Enemy City, 0 ganks, 0 Old Ironjaw's

My Old Crafty is lonley

Edited 1 day later : After around 16-18 Hours of Fishing in last 2 days, probably over 3000 casts, caught Old Ironjaw :D
Proud owner of both Old Crafty and Old Ironjaw (also got The 1 Ring too, which i read is rarer than both of them, so thats a bonus :P)

Comment by Gnowo

As mentioned by Vythika above, this fishy is BoP. So do not sit around fishing this with your main, just to have it sent to your alt as this simply won't work.

Comment by 176700

I sold all my epic gear just to afford more fishing lures.... I traded my guild, sold everything in my bank. I have given up raiding and pvp and now wander the world as a lvl 70 fisherman in blue overalls. Ironjaw and Crafty have both met there ends by my own hands (rather my offhand). My mooncloth bags are overflowing with any kind of fish you could imagine... and they're raw...because one day I will trade in my rod and lures for some flint and tinder. And then i shall forever wander the world (of warcraft) as a Nomadic Cook. Untill then, you can find me chillin with "Natty P" in the marshlands in the Emerald Dream realm. Sometimes if im bored, which only happend once since im so highly medicated, I will go back in time to fish with Pagle in Old Hillsbrad, or hit up Pagles Point inside the Troll City in stranglethorn vale.

Comment by 86356

And fr the love of all that is holy, do not recast until you accept that the stupid thing is BOP. I can't tell you how many times I have lost fish/items this way, and I just lost Old Ironjaw :'(

Comment by 217646

wow catching it is impossible been
is it fishing in water or in lava or both cause it taking forever

Comment by Zanzubaa

You might want to bring some lesser invisability potions to make a fast escape in case you get spotted.

Comment by 75088

My stats for finally catching Old Ironjaw:

Longjaw Mud Snapper (750)
Bristle Whisker Catfish (258)
Brilliant Smallfish (197)
17 Pound Catfish (3)
Lesser Mana Potion (3)
19 Pound Catfish (2)
Bloated Mud Snapper (2:)
Veteran Armor (1)
Simple Blouse of Frozen Wrath (1)
Old Ironjaw (1: 0.82%)

A total of 1218 casts for me.

Have caught both Old Ironjaw and Old Crafty now. Caught on back to back days. Caught mine while water walking. I changed things up and tried water walking, and caught right after using water walking.

Comment by 170203

With patch 3.0.2 and the introduction of an achievement for catching both fish... I highly suspect that Blizzard responded to the constant threat of getting corpse-camped by upping the drop rate drastically on both Old Crafty and Old Ironjaw. I caught both fish in less than 300 casts each on three different characters now, the average being 253.6 total casts.

If you're not one of the lucky ones who can head into enemy territory at five in the morning when the city has 25 total people in it, this (suspected) change is a great thing.

Comment by 230701

I do not like this fish....
I took my Blelf Hunter to IF and cought....

365 Longjaw Mudskippers
92 Brilliant Smallfish
125 Bristle Whisker Catfish
2 , 19lb catfish
1 , 17lb catfish
1 , 22lb catfish

NO IRONJAW !

I gave up and gonna get back there some other time.

Comment by 71107

Finally got him after two days, and 261 casts (sure as hell wasn't going to leave until I got him, because I'm Horde and getting in is a pain in the ASS). Agree with the advice to get in through the Deeprun Tram, or else you'll die a few times trying to get to a suitable place to fish.

I feel like I just earned e-p33n +345345.

No lures needed, as it's practically a starting zone fishing area. Just bring a real big drink and some snacks and prepare to slog away at it.

Comment by 233502

I seemed to have a very lucky night last night.

As I sat with a friend at the pool out The Mystic Ward. He began to get annoyed as a crowd emerged and began to fish.

Fishing is not my friend, I have 282 skill and since Achievements are around I didn't start to fish till last night. So there I was catching fish and Ding: https://www.wowhead.com/cata/achievement=1556

I laughed it off and continued to fish, felt like a noob but oh well that's life. 10 mins later Ding: https://www.wowhead.com/cata/achievement=1557

Now I began to get really excited as I only wanted to go onto 100. But to my surprise on the 57th Catch I finally caught Old Ironjaw after spending 20mins there. Yeah my friend was annoyed but come on this was something to post on trade channel, and it was only for a laugh, didn't think I would actually catch him.

Good Luck to those trying, It really is a big achievement.

Comment by Zeerus

This will be voted down, but I am at 2899 casts, and still no Ironjaw. -_-
I have tried all types of lures, the fishing helm, the ZG fishing pole and nothing seems to work.
Curse you, The 1 Ring, for making me think you were Ironjaw. :P
Paitence.. Man this is testing my paitence... lol

Comment by Arhippa

I just caught this, took about 70-80 casts. A friend of mine with 17 fishing (when he started) tried to catch it as well and caught 2 with 149 casts.
Perhaps the drop rate has been indeed increased?

Trying to get old crafty tomorrow, hope I don't get ganked too much.

Comment by Dukuna

900 fish in the lava, no iron jaw. one '1 ring', 1 healing pot, 1 mana pot, 3 n pounders, and the rest default fish.

Comment by Ryxis

as horde, i was pleased to see that most of the alliance left me alone, although:

it took me 6 hours of almost contant fishing to get him, in that time a shaman got him within 5 minutes of fishin, a guild mate within 30 minutes and another guild mate within 2 hours

a note for horde, it is now harder to get into ironforge without dying as all the basic guards are level 75 that you can't easily stealth past, and theres also some level ? elites wandering about too, once you get t the cavern i recommend not leaving until you have the fish, its a complete bugger to get back there every day

Comment by 26327

For Horde trying to fish up Old Ironjaw, there is now a very easy way to get to Ironforge from Shattrath City.

Today Blizzard started the WLK prelude event with a zombie outbreak. All you have to do is become a zombie and you can take the Ironforge portal in Shattrath City. Once there shamble your way to your desired fishing spot. You will die to guards on the way, but once you die you'll be in the heart of Ironforge with no zombie debuff, leaving you free to pound your head against the wall until you catch Old Ironjaw.

(Un)Happy Fishing!

Comment by Deadrights

Can this still be fished from the lava in 3.0.2, can anyone confirm?

Comment by 234619

Got it this morning after 543 yields

Comment by 15246

My take:

I fished in forlorn cavern on a medium population server. I fished one day from 10am server time to midnight. I fished the next day from about 930am server time to about 11am server time. During this time, I was ganked 6 times, mostly between 6pm-midnight the first day. The second day, I was not ganked at all. I saw three other horde during this time, and they were a help being there since people are less likely to screw with you solo if you have more than one 70 with you.

During my entire time there, I casted 2,042 times before I got Ironjaw. It was a pain, but I'm glad I'm done.

Comment by jaxsonbateman

It seems that the allies have nothing better to do than grief. I've been killed repeatedly by ranged classes at the wheel, and a few times at the Forlorn Cavern - in my first day alone. Never mind that I'm not trying to hurt them, or kill their NPC's, or impede on their fun - just trying to catch the damn rarest fish in the game.

Due to the location it's in and the rarity of the drop, I dare say this is one of the hardest achievements in the game (for Horde). Unless I got extremely lucky with Old Crafty (160 catches), it's not nearly as rare as Old Ironjaw, and the allies have two pretty decent hiding spots in Org (behind the mage trainers hut, and behind a waterfall near the BG room).

Edit: with the griefing players and the view required to see the lure, you can pretty much tell when they're coming. Only a stealth druid or rogue could avoid this, but then, it's incredibly difficult to land on the wall without hitting the lava first, revealing their position, and bringing them into melee range anyway. As soon as you see a player take any sort of action that looks like they're coming to attack you (approaching the guard rail, or going around the machinery to get LoS on you), start to logout. You can't logout mid combat, so you have to do it prematurely. If they stop, feel free to stop the logout. But if they continue their aggressive actions, just logout and wait 5-10. Afaik if you do a true logout (instead of alt+F4 terminate) you physically leave immediately, so you won't die - though you can't take any action during the logging out, and with V3 dps is very high.

Comment by jaxsonbateman

Well with my dismay at my 2500 casts currently failing to yield him, I decided to run the maths.

x = 1 - 0.999^y

Where:
x = the chance of seeing one or more (that is, any outcome but 0) Old Ironjaws
0.999 = the chance of not seeing Old Ironjaw drop
y = number of samples of data

So let's take a look.

After 500 loots (y = 500), the chance of seeing at least one Old Ironjaw is 39.3%. So if you get one in less than 500 attempts, you're pretty lucky.

After 1000 loots (y = 1000), the chance of seeing at least one Old Ironjaw is 63.2%. If it takes this long, you're around the average mark.

After 2000 loots (y = 2000), the chance of seeing at least one Old Ironjaw is 86.5%. If it takes this long, you're pretty unlucky - moreso if you haven't seen it yet.

After 2500 loots (y = 2500; where I'm at now), the chance of seeing at least one Old Ironjaw is 91.8%. If it takes this long and you still don't have it... stay away from casinos; you have bad luck.

After 4000 loots (y = 4000; what I'd consider to be a breaking point for most people) the chance of seeing at least one Old Ironjaw is 98.2%. It's not a certainty, but you would have had to have run over a black cat, causing your rear vision mirror to break, all taking place under a ladder to take this long.

And there you have it. Expect around 800 or so loots before seeing him if are of average luck. The more you fish the more chance you have, but it is *never* a certainty.

Good luck!

Jax

Comment by oneru

Note for all fishing fans like me who are totally going for Salty Title:

Old Ironjaw and Old Crafty are NOT necessary for the Accomplished Angler !

So you can get Salty without spending days on these fish :-)! Happy fishing!

Comment by 29456

He's green, and as such requires that you click Okay to loot him. I, in my clumsiness, hit my jump bar on accident before I could click. Lost him. Back to trying again now :(

Comment by Hromund

Patch 3.0.2 -- caught in the lava in 1784 catches!

Comment by 162664

If I remember stats, 1 - ( 0.99876 ^ n ) = p

n = number of catches
p = fraction of players that find Ironjaw in n catches

Plug in your own numbers, I'd estimate players get 180-240 catches an hour, depending on how melted their brains are. I'm at around 1400 myself, half a dozen would be asshats melted to slag by lava. Bottom line, most players won't be able to do this in one afternoon sitting, your character may very well be fishing for days.

Comment by Heckler

A word of warning: If you have auto-loot on, and depend on it to actually 'loot' your fish when you catch em, this fish (like all other BOP fish) gives a warning box "Looting this item will bind it you" and you actually have to click Yes to pick it up. If you cast your lure again without clicking yes, you lose the fish!

Just be careful, would be a shame to have to catch this sucker twice just because you were in a fishing trance.

Comment by arcanuslink

383 Longjaw,
121 Catfish,
76 Smallfish,
1 Ironjaw.

While entering to Ironforge from frontdoor corpse runned 2 times,
Got ganked by a Human rogue like on 350th cast.

Akkor/Boulderfist.

Comment by 239442

Can someone confirm whether fishing off the fake ledge in IF actually has a chance to catch old ironjaw? Anyone caught him in the lava yet?

EDIT: About 15 minutes after posting this, I hooked Ironjaw in the lava, so it is confirmed.

Comment by 233288

Caught successfully from the lava in 25 or less casts. Just luck I'm assuming.

11/03/08

Comment by 5979

got him using coolguywithhair's method after about an hour/200 casts later. i just waited until late at night and tried going into the front entrance, but the lvl 75 guards saw through my stealth so i died about 4 times (counting the lava dive) going in.

with your back against the wall while you're on the invisible ledge you should hold your right mouse button to turn your character, then use your left mouse button to aim the camera to position it so that you can see the bobber.

Comment by 29361

I'm posting this in hopes that other's can avoid the mistake I just made.

I turned on auto-loot and was trying to cast and recast as quickly as possible to reduce the pain of this endeavor as much as possible. Believe it or not, I caught Old Ironjaw before I even got my "Catch 100 Fish" achievement. Problem is, I was going so fast, that before I even realized I had caught Old Ironjaw, I had already recast my next lure. Old Ironjaw is Bind on Pickup, so you have to click OK on the "Are you sure you want to loot this?" dialog -- which I didn't. Old Ironjaw went back into the water, and I haven't seen him since.

Lesson of my sad tale is to not go so fast that you drop him when you actually manage to catch him. Who knows when I'll catch him again. Good luck to all of you.

Comment by Paddyjack

Several of my guildmates, me included, got Old Crafty in one cast while fishing for the baby crocolisk quest in Orgrimmar. Now this got me thinking it is not a coincidence, it could be a bug or something, but next time I get that croc quest, (which is available for both factions), I'm gonna go to Ironforge and try to get Ironjaw.

Maybe it won't work, but I'm sure it wouldn't hurt anyone to have the quest. Who knows, it can prevent you 300 casts and be ganked :)

Comment by archaicstigma

I got really lucky, like 3rd cast ^_^

Comment by 25105

Took me about 20 catches. Luck is a great factor here...

http://i38.tinypic.com/2u70uhk.jpg

Comment by Merdento

That can be real painfull if you are bad lucky, it took me a week to catch them both, old crafty & old ironjaw.

Got old crafty after 2.300 catches in the pools@valley of spirits, took me 5 days.

Got old ironjaw today, after 600 catches in the lava of the great forge. 500 catches yesterday and no luck, today i got it in my 100th catch, a little more lucky than crafty for me...

Now, Mr. Pinchy's time i guess.

I hope you the best of luck with that, you will need it... :/

Edit: In the same night, i got Mr.Pinchy in my 50th try, really faster than i though, and i got the Avhievement completed on the first wish. My lucky day, since i´ve been fishing Mr.Pincy about 300 throws at day, along 2 weeks :)

Comment by Tylerisfunky

Make sure you DO NOT move when you get him. You have to click the accept button to loot because he is bind on pickup. I accidently moved when i got him and didn't get to loot him.
/cry
Do not make the same mistake as me.

Comment by zealot2k

i'm at 2317, i would like to have an achievement "witnessed 20 ironjaw catches", which i would have twice now :(

Comment by katherinne

I read about the lava method and found a slim area from the main forge spot near the turning wheels. After 500 casts in the water... I got him on my fourth or fifth cast into lava.

I don't know why this would be an exploit if they intentionally make lava fishable. It's not like it was easy to cast into the lava, it took several casts each time to get them in a fishable area.

Comment by 145947

After well over 2000 casts (mostly in the kiddie pool) I had nothing. I headed over to the lava and caught him in about 20 casts. Not sure if the lava has a higher drop rate or if I had finally beat the RNG.

Comment by mildlydiverting

Bug with Autoloot and Old Ironjaw confirmed by GM 15/11/08

I just caught him (after apx 315 casts) - but the loot pane vanished, no achievement, no fish in bag.

I contacted the GMs just in case, and had a lovely chat. Apparently there is a glitch in some clients that interacts with some addons and renders these fish unlootable if you have Autoloot on.

I thought I'd clicked out and dismissed the loot panel, but I think this was actually a bug. Blizzard are working on it.

Reccomendation is to fish with no addons turned on.

Comment by 233551

Fished him up today in the lava pool while the town was empty and everyone in Northrend. Seems to average a little more than 1000 casts , or about 4 1/2 hrs. I fished about 500 casts, my partner 500, and he got the fish. He left, so I then fished by myself for about 1000 casts, and up Ironjaw came. Appears counter returns to zero once he is fished up somewhere.

Comment by 251462

/console cameraDistanceMax 50 is the command to zoom out even further.

Comment by Sourcerer

663x Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
211x Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
204x Raw Brilliant Smallfish
7x 17 Pound Catfish
1x Lesser Mana Potion

Total fish caught: 1016
No luck in catching Old Ironjaw yet.

Comment by 207014

got into position at the forlorn caverns while running past a pally whos fishing. he called the entire IF down upon me. and i died while holding on to a fishing pole and is rather utterly defenceless. so i logged and await the next chance to capture this old guy

Comment by 84641

Unfortunately the fishing quest sends you to Stormwind or Orgrimmar, not Ironforge. Just gotta fish him up the hard way.

Comment by 247920

AHHHHHH i caught him but i did not click accept on the popup warning before i cast another line!...im going for the Salty title because my name is Pastrami...im so sad now :( i might try opening a ticket

Comment by Serrah

Since I didn't fancy in running in and dying. As a mage it's really simple to get to the forlorn cavern without dying.

Just to the right of this NPC there will be a ledge where you can get to the gates of ironforge without having to run along the whole mainway.
https://www.wowhead.com/cata/npc=6181

Since guards doesn't seem to be able to daze when you have shields up. Stand near the ledge, use slowing armor, mana shield and ice barrier if you got. Mount up and run inside. Turn left when you get into the gates of ironforge and run through the mystic quarter and into forlorn caverns. When you get to the water, blink and use invisibility and you'll get there without dying and before the mana shield runs out.

Guards should be slowed so they wont be able to keep up with you. They didn't manage to bash through my shield even with my RP fishing gear on sporting a massive 350 spell power. Then just /lie and have fun fishing from there on. Over 1200 casts and no fish for me sofar.

Comment by Veph

Tips for Horde players

Well I haven't caught Old Ironjaw yet, but I made it into Ironforge today with surprising ease, so I thought I'd share my tips:

-I decided to hit up the Forlorn Cavern as my spot of choice
-I went in through the front gates of IF, after taking off all my weapons and armor so they wouldn't get durability damage
-I mounted up and just kept running, and actually made it into the Forlorn Cavern before guards knocked me off my mount and I died
-Once I died (with no durability damage =D) I just ran back up. Luckily the graveyard is pretty close unlike Stormwind's
-After I resurrected I threw Aspect of the Beast on so I was untrackable (non hunters can use potions if they like) and then went into the far back corner of the pool there
-You're able to stand on a back ledge, and once I was in position I /lie to lie down. This literally puts your character under the water but you don't get a breath meter. It's as inconspicuous as you're going to get
-After that it's just a matter of patience. I intend to stay until I've snagged Old Ironjaw

Comment by 171489

Got this after 3 casts, 180 fishing also.

Comment by Lickking

Like most things in WoW, being naked is optional, but recommended.

Comment by 260201

This has been the most annoying part of the fishing achievements that I have done so far. I'm up to 1,000 catches in the Great Forge right now, and still no sight of him. Heres what I have gotten though:

612x Raw Longjaw Mudsnapper
200x Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
178x Raw Brilliant Smallfish

3x Lesser Healing Potion
2x Lesser Mana Potion

3x 17 Pound Catfish
1x 19 Pound Catfish

1x Red Leather Bag

All I ask is this post is not rated down since I have not yet caught Old Ironjaw. I intend to edit this post with more information as I make future attempts.

Edit #1: Added 200 more catches onto the previous figures. Still no luck. :(

Comment by Lobo2me

1375 fish caught and then Old Ironjaw, a bit more than the average.

0.999^x = 0.5
x log 0.999 = log 0.5
x = log 0.999/log 0.5
x = 692.8

That means in 693 catches half of the fishermen will have seen atleast one Old Ironjaw.

Comment by 52322

Maybe it's the lava that makes him so tough eh? Fished in the great forge, caught him after about 15 fish. Was it a fluke? Maybe, but that's two people that caught him quickly after fishing in the lava.

Comment by 237772

Just successfully caught Old Ironjaw in the little pool outside of the porting room

Longjaw x296
Smallfish x91
Catfish x113
17lb Catfish x2
19lb Catfish x2
Lesser Mana Potion x3
Ironjaw!

Comment by darcphnx

Been trying this today myself. I did the dragonblight quest line up to the part where you go to Org. - and then waited till crocs in the city popped up for me in shatt. Went to the clone of Org. and got Old Crafty in about 5-10 mins ( about 30 casts ) - so either I got lucky or it's confirmed.

As for Old Ironjaw, I went to the real IF and just sat at the forelorn cavern casting for an hour with no luck.

Some notes about both locations: You catch a baby croc every time. Having the quest makes it 100% drop rate by the looks of it in IF, SW, and Org. Old Ironjaw on the other hand, might not be affected by the same bug Old Crafty is by having the quest. Just to give you an idea of casts: I went from 387-388 in Org. 388-391 fishing in IF so far.

Some tips: Turn autoloot off, and turn on loot window to mouse cursor. Hotkey your cast line. Get in the habit of waiting 2-3 seconds before pressing the hotkey. Breath easy and be patiant. Last but not least, do this a little bit at a time.

Staying calm and focused is the key to not missing your catch!

Comment by SHPepsicraver

I went here https://www.wowhead.com/cata/maps=1537:485248 and since im a tauren druid i just stealthed all the way to that back corner and took all my gear off and /laydown and nobody could see my body i also took my title off so it shortened my name then about 3 alliance were fishing one of then saw me i stealthed for 3 mins then she went away the two there were either really retarded or im really good because from there i sat there got about 460 https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=6289] before i got old ironjaw but it was worth it because i also need the 1000 fish achievement and it got me way up there..hope that helps...

Comment by 158286

ok Here was my results of the hunt for this elusive creature.

163 Raw longjaw Mud Snapper
63 Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
42 Raw Brilliant Smallfish
1 Old Ironjaw

Gained about 45-55 skill points in fishing doing this and even though I am horde, I did not get killed or even attacked once. Guess it pays to work the night shift =-)

Comment by 26831

Just trained Fishing on my Death Knight, caught 2 Old Ironjaws within 3 minutes of each other around 5:30 A.M. Fishing was only at skill level 45 I was using a lure.

Comment by 275525

http://img120.imageshack.us/my.php?image=win2aa1.jpg

Never fished once in 3 years of playing WoW.

It's not based on Fishing skill, 100% on Luck.

Comment by 137407

does the daily quest trick work?

Comment by 144751

They say Old Ironjaw walks on land in the dead of night...

When no ones lookin'...

Comment by Rastafa

After the fifteenth time being killed by the alliance hunter standing across from me, I because very proficient in the jumping method.. first time I learned from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7qf67BCbb4

Comment by 275712

I decided to start fishing a few weeks ago because I want to try to get as many achievements as possible, and I knew fishing would take the most dedication and patience.

I went from 1-314 skill all in Ironforge, but finally found Ironjaw after about 1150 casts.

I did about 900 in the Forlorn Cavern, 50 near the Great Forge, and 100 near the Mystic Ward before finally catching him.

I should note that two of my guildies also had similar luck near the Forlorn Cavern and Great Forge, but all caught him relatively quickly (<200 casts) near the Mystic Ward.

Obviously nobody knows the 'best' place to catch him, and it's more than likely possible anywhere inside houses him, but based on this I would suggest at least starting out near the Mystic Ward as it just may have a higher chance to yield him, and if not nothing bad came of it. :)

Comment by Corilithon

Was waiting for a raid to form in IF today and I got bored, so I decided to level my horrifically low fishing... fished up old Ironjaw going from 51-57 Fishing. Pleasant little surprise. Was in the Mystic Ward pool, but it's more likely than not just random chance.

Comment by faith1ntheknife

Here's a video I made detailing the secret fishing spot for old ironjaw. (It has a commentary unlike the other video)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d73ufEiUEFM

Comment by 282311

After going to that spot in the Great Forge it only took me about 400-430 attempts to catch the fish. I didn't have any trouble with Alliance, either (Horde character).

Comment by 283684

They must have upped Old Ironjaw's drop rate by a lot, because I just caught him twice in five minutes, and I've never tried before...and I'm not that lucky, trust me =P

Comment by Mordecaien

A short tip to make it less boring: Enable "sound in background" and just tab into the game when you hear the splash. In the mean-time you can browse the web or something :)

Comment by Anarchy

It took me about 2100 catches to get him, don't expect to do this in one sitting, it took me 4 days and multiple sittings, thankfully being ganked was rare.
I fished in the forlorn cavern, rumors of the drop rate being higher in the lava are false, his drop rate is consistant among the three available areas to fish from.

Lures do not help, wearing fishing gear does not help, it is purely luck based, you do not need to be on the fishing quest.

Comment by 291331

I went to Ironforge as a troll hunter, ready to get camped and spend hours farming for him.
I got to the wheel and cast out 3 times and got him.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r120/Dabobryy/ScreenShot_122708_160251.jpg]
Look at Fishing Buddy addon on the left.
It shows 1 Longjaw Mudsnapper 1 Bristlewisker Catfish and 1 Old Ironjaw. Was I just really Lucky or what?
Forgot to Add, I have Fishing of 292 with Nat Pagle's as my pole, which is +20 and +2 fishing on my gloves, So my Skill was at 314.

Comment by 291703

200 fishies, No ironjaw yet, great fishing for this while skilling up your fishing. Very Very Very boring though! Good luck, back to fishing ..

Comment by 85830

Hoof <Whisperwind> HORDE....

I entered Ironforge via the Tram from Stormwind
I fished in the Great Forge Lava (south lava pit)
I got Ironjaw in 311 casts.
I didn't get ganked once. Some lame hunters tried sending their pets in the lava after me but other than that it was easy sailing.
I did find that having my toon /sit while casting helped avoid having to re-rotate/position him after a few casts.
Also - I can confirm that you can loot the Baby Crocolisk for the daily here if you have the quest.

Was pretty fun all in all - sounds like I had a fairly easy time of it compared to some of you (with 500-1000 cast stories).

Good luck my fellow anglers!

Comment by ntechnology

Caught after 3 catches, after killed boss in IF ;-)

Comment by 292618

I started fishing for the old bugger with a base skill of 376. By the time I caught Ironjaw I had just rolled over to 444 fishing skill and it was at or around my 741st catch in the Forlorn Cavern. No man should have to see that many Long Jaw Mud Snappers in one sitting! There are no shortcuts for this fish, I tried 'em all. This is just plain old cast and bobber watch for hours on end. If you are Horde you may never want to look at a rod again if you pull this one off. You are left with a calm sort of serenity afterwards. You feel like theres no fish out there ya can't catch once ya put Old Ironjaw in your bags... after which i promptly slaughtered two ally lowbies and hearthed the hell outta that horrid pit in the side of a mountain!

I also knocked out the 1000 Fish acheivment while I was working on it. Man I hate IF!

Comment by 280553

the spot inside the forge between the wheel and the wall worked great for me as horde! I caught it after about 300 or so casts. No alliance bothered me except one guy who felt the need to make a level 1 alt to complain since he couldn't figure out how to reach me :)

Also note you can't get a camera angle if you fish from the north wheel. I tried for about 10 minutes to get an angle since I saw another horde player in that spot. I assumed the north wheel was fine but I was unable to see my lure. I moved to the south wheel and it was extremly easy to see the lure in the lava. Good luck members of the horde!

http://i40.tinypic.com/a5atfk.jpg

Comment by 144572

I'm posting my data about how hard was to me get this fish.

739x Raw Longjaw Mudsnapper
296x Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
234x Raw Brilliant Smallfish

4x Lesser Healing Potion
1x Lesser Mana Potion

7x 17 Pound Catfish
3x 19 Pound Catfish
1x 22 Pound Catfish

1x Buccaneer's Cord of the Owl
1x Buccaneer's Gloves of the Eagle
(Yes, you can fish green items too)

1x Old Ironjaw

Total = 1287 catches

I fished in the Southwest corner of the Forlorn Cavern (clic to see map)
Went from 240 to 375(capped) fishing skill. I had bought the Master Fishing - The Art of Angling book just in case.

Comment by purplekathryn

What an utterly soul destroying achievement. Which I still haven't managed to get

Comment by 137187

Anyone knows if there is the same bug with this fish like there was with Old Crafty, that if you hadn't gotten the achievement you could not loot it, don't know if there is anyone else that experienced this bug or it just was 3 of my chars that did. would be irritating to find out when trying to catch this sucker.

Comment by Diabolika

Crocolisks in the City!

Before having this quest, i fished up 790 fish in ironforge without catching ironjaw.
I obtained the quest, and without looting the baby crocolisk, i caught ironjaw on my 22nd cast.

Coincidence? I'll let you decide.

Comment by 20409

The "Crocolisks in the City" bug that allows you to catch Old Crafty easily also works for Old Ironjaw. However, it only works on the small pool in The Mystic Ward. This makes it much harder for horde players to do.

I managed to get him on my 10th cast or so and it acted the same way as Old Crafty does when trying to loot him with the crocolisk in your inventory.

Comment by 232769

I don't believe using the fishing Crocodile daily has any effect on Ironjaw like it does with Old Crafty. I caught crafty on my alliance and horde characters in 2-8 catches; fishing skill was irrelevant.

I caught over 270+ fish on my horde Deathknight in Ironforge with the Croc daily and did not fish up Ironjaw. I tried the Forlon Cavern, the Mystic Ward's pool, and fishing in the lava behind the water wheel. I caught about 200 on my alliance character with the daily in the same areas and did not get him.

To my knowledge the daily quest bug does not work for Ironjaw on alliance or horde - it only works for Old Crafty.

If anyone can prove me wrong and provide proof that would be awesome. If not, prepare to spend some time fishing in Ironforge!

Comment by 303632

So I don't know if they've changed the drop rates or what.

I just finished the Artisan fishing quest and I figured I'd get some skill points.

Sat down in front of the TV to fish in Ironforge.

An hour and a half later (and 29 skill points):

1x Old Ironjaw
1x 17 Pound Catfish
1x Lesser Healing Potion
2x Lesser Mana Potion
29 Raw Brilliant Smallfish
43 Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
116 Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
193 total

Sorry about everyone who spent 2000 casts without looting.

Comment by 306785

I'd just like to inform everyone that the daily quest "Crocolisks In The City" has absolutely NO EFFECT on your chances to catch Old Ironjaw. He's just a tough fish to catch.

Don't let any of the above posts fool you into thinking otherwise.

On the bright side, the quest most definitely works for catching Old Crafty!

Comment by bumba

I got Old Ironjaw and 1000 cast achievement in the same day.

I'd say most of those 1000 casts were in IF except for the 225 training quest i needed to do.

Happy Hunting!

Comment by thePredator

So... after almost 2 years of sitting on 22 fishing skill I decided to level it since we've cleared all content and I was terribly bored... Got myself a pole and some lures and started in the Ironforge Mystic Ward... Got this baby before I got the 100 Fish achievement. And if that wasn't good enough I got 2 (two) more before I got the 250 fish achievement. Now I don't know what to do with all 3. :D

EDIT: Make that 4, just got another one after I finished writing this.

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/7877/ironjawfd4.jpg
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/2126/ironjaw2ab1.jpg

EDIT 2: It just keeps getting better and better... You guys sure there's nothing to increase the droprate? Maybe it's the hat? :D

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/5288/ironjaw3jt2.jpg

Comment by 273685

FFS.. this is my second day trying to catch him, pretty sure I am well over 1000 casts between yesterday and today yet have had no luck -.-

Edit: I'm fishing from the "secret" wheel spot... I have been slow to switch back from other windows on occasion and missed a few catches but for the sake of my sanity I'm not considering that old ironjaw could have been one of those. :(

Comment by 303065

It should be noted (especially for horde) that the "Crocolisks in the City" trick appears to work on Old Old Ironjaw just like it does with Old Crafty

For those unfamiliar with the "trick" I'm talking about, it involves obtaining the quest "Crocolisks in the City" from Old Man Barlo Just outside Shattrath City in Terokkar Forest.

You then travel to Origmar (for Old Crafty) or Ironforge (for Old Ironjaw) and start fishing.

Apparently, being on this quest seems to greatly increases your chances of fishing up ether of these very rare fish.

However, it seems the quest needs to be incomplete for this trick to work. So if you catch a crocolisk before Old Ironjaw, Just throw it back, or destroy it, and keep fishing.

You may catch several Crocolisk before Old Ironjaw shows himself.
(I threw back about 3 of them before I got him)

But with a little bit of persistence, he should show himself.

I know the whole idea sounds kinda unlikely, but tried it based on other peoples advise, and caught Old Crafty in the time it took me to get from 304 fishing skill to 316 & Old Ironjaw in the time it took to get from 316-319.

So it seems to work.

Also, as others have mentioned, the reason you want to be carefull with auto-loot and re-casting is because both fish are BOP and trigger the "do you want to loot this item" window.

So stay sharp, and don't panic when he finally pops up.

Comment by remoter

I also found out that you can fish while you have yourself set to /afk and it seemed to help me a little bit with no one messin with me.

Comment by 52665

Due to the BoP dialog with Old Crafty and Old Ironjaw, I have installed NoBoPWarning from curse gaming to remove the BoP dialog while I am fishing.

IMPORTANT: make sure you turn this off for instances and raids or youll get in big troub.

hope it helps.

Comment by d3xx

You can catch him in the pool in the mystic ward, the lava in the great forge or the pool in the forlorn cavarn.(the chances of catching him are pretty low).

Comment by Lastemperor

Got mine after 76 casts :) Pretty lucky, im a hordie aswell :D With 450 fishing, no lure. I used the cavern, not the lava.

Comment by 318464

A couple hours into doing Ol'Crafty I checked WoWhead and used the Crocolisk daily trick. I still had the quest a few days later when I went to Ironforge for Ironjaw. Low and behold I must have gotten within 20 casts, on my second Baby Crocolisk.

Despite what Above posts claim, I magically had better luck using that silly Quest method on BOTH of these rare fish.... go figure, it won't hurt :)

Not that I wanted to cheat or w/e but it works :S as of WOTLK 2/6/09

Comment by mouseno4

Took me 1260 fish to get this particular one. Went from 1-334 fishing skill before i fished him up.

I wasnt going out of my way to get him. It was a case of, i wanted 450 fishing on my priest and so i decided to do it in ironforge so i would eventually fish this one up.

Comment by 112776

The story of how i caught Old Ironjaw
-Deathomen, Uther (US)

**NOTE** - Yes, i realize this is quite long. If you want to get to the good stuff, simply read the underlined paragraph. I just figured i would post the entire thing so people could see exactly how i caught him, and share in my excitement.

I recently moved to a new server, and have nothing to do, so i decided to start leveling my long neglected secondary professions. I was reluctant to level Fishing until after i had got to 375 First Aid, and then Cooking, and when the time came to actually start leveling fishing i hated the thought of it.

I'm exactly sure when i leveled it, but i was already at 150 fishing, which was rather encouraging. I decided that if i was going to do something as mind numbing as leveling fishing, i wanted to get something awesome out of it, so i chose to try fishing up Old Ironjaw. Since i hadn't leveled fishing since long before the achievement system was implemented, my fish caught was at 0. I started off in the Forlorn Cavern, and fished up somewhere around 150 fish before moving to the lava for another 50 fish and then moving back to the Forlorn Cavern and fishing up another hundred fish, giving me a total of 300 for the day. This put me at 225 Fishing.

At this point, i was so mind numbingly bored that i simply could not continue, so i went to a couple PUGs (got no loot btw :(). After the PUGs i decided to go do the quest to get Artisan Fishing. Once completed, i headed back to Ironforge to give Old Ironjaw another go.

I spent the better of an hour fishing because i was distracted by several other things, but something soon caught my attention. Normally i cast, click the bobber, let the loot screen pop up while i reply to a tell or to someone in guild chat, then pick up my loot and repeat, however after about 75 fish (375 total for the day) i noticed that my loot had a green name instead of the usual white. To my amazement, it was Old Ironjaw! I simply could not believe that i had caught him so quickly. After reading all the horror stories about how long it took, and seeing Jaxsonbateman's calculations on the percentage to catch Old Ironjaw after so many loots, i expected to be fishing for the next few days, but no, i had caught him much more quick then i anticipated!

The words of wisdom i offer to those hoping to catch Old Ironjaw are this: Don't give up simply because you are at 5000 loots, and have yet to see him even once. The time it takes to catch him is nothing compared to the excitement you will experience when you finally do! Although i caught him very quickly, i didn't expect to, and i planned to stand around fishing as long as i needed to so i could catch him. Just stick with it guys! :)

I, on the other hand, will be sneaking my way into Orgrimmar to fish up Old Crafty =D

Comment by 248954

Just caught this bugger :P, luckily the passerby alliance were very friendly and even when they spotted me they wouldn't attack =).

good luck,
dont give up!

Comment by Blinndox

So after fishing for thousands of casts I finally caught him. I did an ALT+Z to take a screenshot (before i looted him) of the achievement and just like that, I lost him.

Comment by 327417

I think I was too lucky. Got mine on 10th cast from Forlorn Cavern. I'm lvl 71 and fishing skill 360.

Comment by 307762

I went to the north wheel on my first attempt but try as I might I could not get a camera angle to see the lure. Fishing the south wheel now without any problems.
Approaching my level cap at 375 after over 900 fish so will have to port Dalaran and start again once trained.

Comment by 294341

You can fish in the lava in IF, not just the running lava.. it's gotta be the lava that is beneath it. It's directly under the flight master and it's more dark then the other smelting lava.

First cast today when I logged in and Old Grumpy was mine, err I mean Ironjaw >:)

Some people are destined to have luck and others are not, well what I lack in gold is made up in loot ;P Good luck getting him!

Comment by 299963

Well have been trying for maybe 200 casts now with no luck but atleast its a good and motivating way to skill up. All the people fishing in SW might aswell go here instead.

Comment by 244315

Do NOT be in a group while fishing. Ironjaw is BoP, so if you are in group it will say: "This item will bind to you", and if you're to fast and press your fishing keybind before you have pressed accept, you will lose it. I cutted wrists all night.

Comment by 166639

Got it in two casts... before a paladin and death knight proceed to pound me into a fine beef ala tauren paste.

Old Crafty on the other hand... 2872 casts and counting...

Comment by ghost9er9er9

I caught this after several sessions of intense fishing in IF and came up empty-handed. Then I grabbed the Croc quest from guy outside Shatt and fished in IF...got croc and 3 casts later got Old Ironjaw...After 30 seconds of yelping in joy I decided to post...THAT QUEST IS MAGIC

Comment by Shaulyss

Longjaw Mud Snapper x 50 (67%)
Bristle Whisker Catfish x 11 (14%)
Brilliant Smallfish x 11 (14%)
Old Ironjaw x 1 (1%)
Lesser Mana Potion x1 (1%)

Lucky me eh?

Comment by 267189

Started fishing in Ironforge at 1 fishing, in Forlorn Caverns. MIght've fished 10 fishes before I realized I was at 75, so I went to go train and continued fishing. At perhaps 85, I decided it'd be more fun to fish in the lava at the great forge. So I stood on the rim of the eastern smelting pool and cast into the magma.

Anyway, I got Old Ironjaw at 102 fishing. I might have been really lucky, or the droprate might be a lot better in the lava.

In any case, happy fishing.

Edit: Old Ironjaw was my 118th fish.

Comment by 102343

Priests can benefit from the free levitate glyph whilst fishing and can thus levitate on water for as long as they wish. creating a macro ensures you will never fall.
/Cast levitate
/Cast fishing
refreshes levitate every time they cast
applies generally ofc too but its handy being able to sit at the back of the forlorn cavern pool.

Comment by 322959

I may be incorrect, but as of patch 3.1, I would no longer let me cast my line in the lava in the Great Forge, therefore making it much more difficult for Horde to catch this fish

Comment by 345118

No longer warns you that looting this will bind it to you. This helps prevent people accidentally re-fishing to quickly if they have auto-loot on.

Comment by 142863

I must be unlucky or something. I've been fishing here for a few hours and haven't caught it yet. (I don't expect to for atleast a couple more hours.) but as I was fishing, some other people came to fish with me.

This guy had been fishing with me for 5 minutes and hadn't said a word. I got up to go to the bathroom and came back to noone sitting around the pool and a single message...

has earned the achievement !

Noooo!

Comment by Jahamakarahl

I just want to say that as of today (someone might have said it but cba to read it all) 18/4-2009 Old Ironjaw cannot be fished in Great forge, There is no longer fish there and it say "there is no fish in this water" So do not attempt it since u need to die.

Comment by xanderhunter

can no longer fish in front of the portal room, claims there is no fish in the water

Comment by 148486

Caught him on a quiet monday morning. There weren't even PvP-ing allies at the gates and to my sheer luck and amusement, 2 rogues joined me inside to cause mayhem and distract everyone in Ironforge. Took me exactly 380 casts to catch him. I was detected twice, but being a druid I could stealth and hide.

So, no real new tips from me, except that the "distraction method" worked quite well in keeping the allies away from me. Only works on very low hours, of course. And it gave me something to watch while fishing: seeing the buffs and debuffs on my party members, I could vividly imagine the fight, hehe.

Comment by Zofrenn

Got it on 90th or so cast... Just be persistant, it will show up eventually.
-Zofrenn of Burning Legion

Comment by 101078

HAHAHAHA my god that was amaizing ty you just really made me laugh and at the same time feal totally depresed thatim gona have no life on wow for next couple days

Comment by dyingcrow

As Horde, in a low traffic hour (early in the morning) had no trouble. Got killed once by a rogue on the way, only a couple players saw me and stopped when i was fishing, logged for 15-20 mins and they were gone. As a druid i could stealth in easily from stormwind using the tram, after fishing there and doing stockades for the achievements. Taking armor off is advisable to avoid high repair bills for classes that cant stealth (even for who can stealth, couse stuff happens), since you will die a few times on the way. Took me round 360 casts to catch ironjaw. Blew up luck for a whole month xD
Up to 1500 casts and Old Crafty still laughs at me. I have a feeling itll be today...

Comment by Darthdavo

~~Perfect for that level one twink!~~

My bad, fishing is a level 5 Proffesion! Dang! :(

Comment by 218900

Fished for something like 6 hours in Orgrimmar for, Old Crafty. Never saw it.
2nd cast in Ironforge I get, Old Ironjaw. :|

Comment by 265206

Anyone else kinda worried that this turtle looks like a fish ? :[

Comment by threninduil

You can no longer fish in the Mystic Ward or the Great Forge. Waste of time.

But I did catch old Ironjaw yesterday on my 324th cast!

No too shabby.

Comment by 364331

3 days and 2288 casts later (not counting the first day which I didn't have the addon that counts casts or when i switched computers for a little while), I finally get my hands on this fish. Got ganked a handful of times, but the longer it takes, the better it feels to finally catch the sucker :)

Comment by 281162

Caught old ironjaw on my 68th cast and again on my 90th cast in The Forlorn Cavern...seems like its just dumb luck catching this guy or even greater luck catching it before I hit my 100th cast.

Comment by oxidator

I got it on 28th cast :-)
Fishing skill at 335 + sharpened hook (+100)

Comment by 299804

Ok, this is ridiculous, I've been trying to get this sone of a ^&*!@ more than 10hours, around 1800casts... Why do Blizzard makes achievements this rare, is there some weird point that "its more unique" or smth, I am so depressed because some dude came and fished this @#$% up in half an hour... Goddamn RNG must hate me.

Comment by chrisb2k

Like most things in life, being naked is optional, but recommended.

fixed :P

Comment by 70690

did the things everybody here said.. as me beeing a rogue it was quite easy to sneak in ironforge.. 1st try i had him ^^

Comment by Tehzeeb

Sampling is from the geometric distribution, so says the almighty Wikipedia, which measures the number of trials until the first success. He is implicitly assuming the drop rate is 0.1%, or p=0.001. I couldn't find any numbers on it, but there are numbers for Old Crafty, and it says 0.2%. That'll make a huge difference.

Here's a small probability table of the likelihood associated with a catch, with the percentages being taken from the cumulative distribution function by the equation ceil(ln(1-z)/ln(1-p)) (yea, I'm a math/CS nerd).

z = percentile on the curve (where you fall if you can catch it in a given number of tries, so smaller is luckier)
p=0.1% = number of catches needed assuming a probability of success is 0.1%
p=0.2% = number of catches needed assuming a probability of success is 0.2%

z | 1 | 5 | 10 | 20 | 30 | 40 | 50 | 60 | 70 | 80 | 90 | 95 | 99 | 99.9
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
p=0.1%| 11 | 52 | 106 | 224 | 357 | 511 | 693 | 916 | 1204 | 1609 | 2302 | 2995 | 4603 | 6905
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
p=0.2%| 6 | 26 | 53 | 112 | 179 | 256 | 347 | 458 | 602 | 804 | 1151 | 1497 | 2301 | 3451

This is not a symmetric distribution, so z=50% does not correspond to the average number of catches. For the average, simply do 1/p, so, 1000 catches if p=0.1% and 500 catches if p=0.2%. It's not a very useful number because the standard deviation associated with such a low probability is almost 100%. So there can be a lot of variability between different people.

Comment by 235877

After reading the comments on here of people getting Ironjaw after 2500 odd casts I'm not sure if the drop rate has been changed or what, but I just got him after my 61st cast, lucky me :) off to Org to get Crafty now.

Comment by duncanboi

76th cast on my 19 priest just messin round in IF one night. GL to all

Comment by 384121

I almost wish this was a weapon... with maybe 1-1 damage, just for the sake of slapping a fiery/unholy enchant on it.

Comment by travel

694 fish to get Ironjaw - max fishing used no lures, was in forlorn cave. Saw one person next to me get Old Ironjaw at the same time they hit 50 total fish acheivement. I'm not sure how many of the 50 were cast there but I would guess all of them.

Comment by deathisnear24

i fished him up on my 95th cast

Comment by 264695

I feel very lucky. I caught my Old Ironjaw on my 13th cast.

Comment by 150529

will be rated down,but i just caught that little bastard at my 1337 throw.....xmmm,this number is indeed magical

Comment by 401400

Took me just 56 tries in forlorn cavern! No more than 16 minutes!

Comment by 56413

Well, i must be the luckiest man on earth because i just found Ironjaw on the first cast i ever made in IF.

Migth be bugged, i was in caven and was in a raid and bang.

Try it out and hope it helps :)

Comment by Amonjura

1045 finnaly dropped didnt ask me if i wanted to accept it though so didnt have a chance to not pick it up as auto loot was active and it just went straight into my bag

Comment by kopla

People are gonna call me a liar but i dont care what they all say but, i recently learn fishing and on my FIRST cast i caught old ironjaw my guildies were even amazed.

Darklordcc out.

Comment by 422130

Its almost impossible to catch him i keep fishing up raw longjaw mud snapper :-(

Comment by Tijne

Well, I officially hate this game. I went to IF to try for this guy, and of course I think i'm going to be here a while. Well I got him on my FIRST hook, but just clicked fishing again and lost him...

Comment by Phioner

Just a note, if you are using the southwest corner of the forlorn cavern, remember to /lay down (you can still fish!) making you almost impossible to spot.

Comment by 429280

I caught mine after 16 catches in the Forlorn Cavern. I posted the acheivement in Trade Chat and I kept getting whispered "Wtf?" or "Congrats!". I had the following in my inventory after catching him:

9 Mud Snappers
2 Bristle Whisker Catfishes
4 Brilliant Smallfish
1 Old Ironjaw

One of my Guild Members now calls me "Fish Face".

Comment by Vrinkel

Iv'e Been there for 6 hours! my mate caught the god damn fish! twice! and i stilkl didn't get it! it's making me crazie!

Comment by galacticmaze

I'm currently to 500+ fish caught, no Ironjaw.
Someone else comes up, 53 casts!
Some people have all the luck

Comment by logaholics

well my first time trying to catch him, never got killed did /lie in the back of that cavern and 84 casts later, acheivement earned....

not to mention before heading here i did over 600 casts in org. for old crafty with no luck

Comment by 437545

After all your elaborate comments on strategies of fishing and drop rates, I feel inadequate by saying this: caught Old Ironjaw at my 1st attempt, 4th reel...

Old Crafty, however, did not yield so easily and after 7h of fishing and evading the horde, I have yet to catch him.

On a side note: I don't think the fishing skill is of any significant relevance in this current achievement (my fishing was between 190-200)

Comment by neltharion1

I must be incredibly lucky because I just got this little dude in 5 casts... too bad my dice don't agree. Time for Old Crafty...

Comment by 445379

Well i was bored just now in If. Looked through the fishing achievements, see if i could do any. Saw Old ironjaw one and decided to give it a lash. Got it on my third cast. Checked it out here on Wowhead. God damn that was a lucky cast

Comment by 450249

It took me about 5 hours to catch him, however there was no loot confirm. It just auto looted with no BOP confirmation, I think they might have finally gotten rid of it for the fish!

Comment by 450933

Thank my lucky stars that i have the mod to loot old ironjaw. if i didn't, i would have exceeded 100 casts to get him :)

Comment by 456880

Thanks for all the ideas about horde fishing in IF - the /liedown idea works great, and helps a lot. When you lie down you can orient your toon so that your head goes through the back wall and then your title will be totally covered!

Happy Fishing

Comment by ahmedia

Ok, so I went fishing in the Folorn Cavern with a fishing skill of around 140.

On the 35th lure I found him. In that time I've got:

Longjaw Mud Snapper - (21 : 60.0%)
Bristle Whisker Catfish - (8: 22.9%)
Brilliant Smallfish - (5: 14.3%)
Old Ironjaw - (1: 2.9%)

I was stood in fromt of Lago Blackwrench and was in the water up to my elbows.

Hope this helps.

Comment by DrCheis

I just caught the fish today, after the 3.2.2a patch, and I'm pleased to announce that the BoP window is GONE!
I cast my line, clicked the bobber, heard a "reeling in" sound effect followed by an achievement ding. Looking up from my comic book I discovered I had caught Ironjaw. I had been looking forward to accidentally casting a new line instead of clicking the accept button, but it seems we no longer need to worry about that.

Until Blizzard changes it back again...

Comment by sharam

got it today, fished up about 110 fish, then a rogue ganked me. went back and he started fishing with me! there was a paladin there as well. they were nice enough, to fish with me until i got the achievement!

fishermen unite!

Comment by 242225

Got him after just 133 tries. Off to Orgrimmar now on my level 22 druid:D.

Comment by Vreth

i'm a level 34 human rogue. FINALLY caught him after between 870-880 casts.... nothing special, just throwing a line into the pool of the Forlorn Cavern. pretty much right on par with the chart from an earlier post that explained percentages to catching him. you guys in that 300 cast club are lucky! lol in the end though, got a couple low level green items and potions along the way i could send to my alt and sell at the AH, probably worth 3 or 4 gold worth of items by the end of it as a bonus to the achievement. didn't get that BOP message either (i'm still more of a noob though so i don't know much about what the patches have done).

also, someone earlier mentioned Old Ironjaw as an actual weapon.... i did catch a Steelscale Crushfish, which is a 12dps or so mace, by coincidence off the docks of Southshore while trying to catch the Fish Finding ability. it is pretty fun to equip it and smack some wolves or something around just for the sake of gaining mace skill.

thanks to everyone who posted here! i started to get disheartened after 350 casts or so til i read this board and it motivated me to just keep at it.

Comment by 475461

Caught him on the 503th cast after fishing in Forlorn Caverns around 1 hour and 40 minutes. Good luck! Also, didn't have any issue with Alliance attacking me, was in the middle of the cave with /sleep.

Comment by Norrina

It took me a total of:
147 Raw Longjaw Mudsnapper
44 Brilliant Smallfish
52 Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
1 Lesser Healing Potion
1 17-Pound Catfish
_____
About 245 Casts (Plus a few casts where nothing was fished up).

I'm sure I got lucky compared to others, but it just takes a lot of patience for this. Happy hunting! :)

(Also, I think it was mentioned a few posts above, but I did not get a window telling me it was BoP. It was automatically looted.)

Comment by herlzinger

Fished up in the Forlorn Cavern of Ironforge on my 3584th cast. According to my data, the chance of fishing up Old Ironjaw in the Forlorn Cavern is approx. 0.0279% on each cast. Good luck...you'll need it.

Comment by 483178

630 fish, 3hrs, 54 skill points later I finally got the old man. To say I got excited after finally catching it would be an understatement. I actually had to go unload fish in my bank to continue fishing. I wanted to stop a couple times because I thought you might have to be 450 but you don't, I caught him at 443. Just some info if you're debating on doing it or continuing after about 300 fish, lol.

Comment by Maskinen

Thanks The 1 Ring for tricking me into thinking I got Old Ironjaw. Twice!

Still on around 2400 casts in Forlorn Cavern. Damn this fish just won't bite!

Edit: Got it on 2484.. it helps complaining here on Wowhead :-)

Comment by 485665

I was just fooling around on my warlock fishing a few in between my AV's to level him and i just started fishing and at like level 5 fishing i caught him. Now on my main, 80 druid, i have been fishing for at least 1k fish and i can't catch him, its just terrible

Comment by neldridge

I've been camping this over the last few days. I've got over 1800 loots, that's after I was 4 hours in and turned on Fishing Buddy.

http://www.imgfixr.com/image/1438

sad face.... looks like some others have had poor luck also.

Comment by DrSlump

It took me about 2200 casts. Be prepared to spend massive amounts of time for those who are unlucky! =(

Comment by 206732

Thanks to all who posted helpful tips for fishing inconspicuously in Ironforge as Horde.

I finally decided it was about time to get this old fish, so I braved the guards, and made my way to the cave. A few level 80s decided it just wouldn't do to have me there fishing, and killed me.

After returning, I used the /sleep command to keep a lower profile. Although I was noticed a couple times, I wasn't deemed enough of a threat apparently. Fishing while lying down seems to be the key to getting undisturbed fishing time.

After my successful catch, I counted up all fish in my bags, and discovered I had a total of 333 fish, plus Old Ironjaw!

Comment by 452527

85th Cast. Yes, envy me, your hate fuels me.
Various rogues, hunters, and druids messed with me, but didnt actually kill me.
Follow tips if you're horde, sleeping helps alot.

Comment by 66488

Just fished up Old Ironjaw on my 15th cast in Forlorn Cavern.

Comment by mixter

Caught this on my 1337th cast!

well not rly :( /crys in corner

Comment by 515168

if you wanna laugh, try equiping Old Ironjaw and Last Month's Mutton... LOL

Comment by dusty97

I just caught him on my Second Cast

Comment by 500878

As you will see down in further posts, many people make the mistake of casting catching Old Ironjaw and then recasting not realizing he is BoP. They realize at it afterwards and get angry and try to warn others about it. theres an easier way to do it. put your cast lure ability on your action bar and do not use your keyboard to cast. moving your mouse back and forth will many times allow you enough time to see what u have caught without recasting. therefor there will be less missed Ironjaws because you will see what you have caught before you click the cast button again (With your mouse)!

Best of luck to all going for this achievement. :)

Comment by 123635

Getting into Ironforge is not that difficult for Horde side if you are anywhere near the level of the guards. I rode through the front gate and circled around until I got to the forlorn cavern. Once I got there, I swam out to the farthest area away from the road and killed the one guard who was still following me, then swam to the shore and started fishing. Most of the alliance players who ran past waved at me (I took off all my armor so it would not receive durability damage before I entered the city).

Comment by 224109

Just fished up Old Ironjaw as Horde. I fished in The Forlorn Cavern. Most of the time the Alliance left me alone, occasionally fishing with me!

986 casts.
598 * Longjaw Mud Snappers.
200 * Bristle Whisker Catfish.
176 * Brilliant Smallfish.
5 * 17 Pound Catfish.
2 * Lesser Mana Potions.
1 * 19 Pound Catfish.
1* Willow Gloves of the Eagle.
1* Lesser Healing Potion.
1* The 1 Ring (which was nice, should be able to sell it for a pretty penny or I might give it to my bank alt).
And of course 1 * Old Ironjaw himself.

Comment by wye43

Ironjaw in about 1100 casts
Crafty in about 250 casts

I did it while leveling fishing - only level 297 fishing reached so far. My guess is if you are leveling fishing from 1 to max while doing this you have very good chances to grab both.

Comment by trollkind

Haha, is there a record board somewhere? I just got it in under 10 casts.
I tried fishing him up with my Horde Druid and stopped after ~650 casts because I needed to visit my trainer. Now I tried again with my also Horde Shammy, got there last night, already dead tired and only did 3-5 casts before falling asleep. Now I log back in, still in the Forlorn Cave, ready to have a 4-5 hour anglin' session and the 4th cast suddenly gives me the achievement swoosh. I was barely awake yet, now I am and overjoyed.

Comment by 113452

I got him tonight on my 4th cast.

I am aware that by posting this, I have just totally, and utterly jinxed myself into having a terrible, and extremely annoying time trying to fish up Old Crafty. XD

EDIT: Ok, so I decided to wait a day before trying for Old Crafty. Thanks for all the hints.
Caught him after 28 minutes.

26 Raw Longjaw Mud Snappers
7 Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
5 Raw Brilliant Smallfish
1 Simple Britches of the Eagle
And of course, Old Crafty. :D

Good luck to the rest of you.

Comment by 440836

for those who are afraid of losing him while hes in the loot windows because of the quick cast of fishing just have free slots in ur bag and autoloot on and u can use keyboard or wathever u want cuz all that was in the loot windows will go to ur bag
tested it myself

cumps

Comment by Feliciamarie

Haha. Just got it on my fourteenth cast. Let's see how quickly this gets voted down.

Comment by 558499

Got Ironjaw on my first cast in Iron Forge, i submitted the screenshot too if you want proof

Comment by Sintacks

Someone said complaining helps, so I'm going to.

Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper x315
Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish x115
Raw Brilliant Smallfish x73
Lesser Mana Potion x2
Lesser Healing Potion x2
19 Pound Catfish x3

NO STUPID IRONJAW :(

Comment by Falquan

Has something changed with this? I am at over 4000 Fish Caught in the forlorn cavern with no sight of Ironjaw.

Comment by 476969

same here over 3750 atm and nothing. A week ago i got it on 3 different characters from a few minutes to a couple hours... Now everyone I talk to has been in here for several DAYS with nothing? Maybe they glitched it with the last background patch?

Anyone gotten it in the last 2-3 days?

Comment by 573961

Just to show this thing really is the luck of the draw.

I'm still trying to fish him up......and I'm over 8,000 casts right now.

....I'll never fish again....

Comment by malcolmthenewt

61 casts!

I was ready for the long hawl too, don't know what to do with myself now!

Comment by 576111

I'm closing in at 10,000 casts. Been trying this off and on since 2.3.

I've tried all the "tricks" like having the Crocs in the City quest, wearing the lucky charm necklace, using max fishing skill. Nothing. This is driving me nuts.

Out of desperation, I created an account here to complain about this.. in hopes that the Ironjaw Gods are listening.

Hopefully you'll see an "Edit: success" soon!

Comment by 577607

This is 100% true.. i swear it on my mother's life.. I am alliance and I was at about 145 fishing skill, i think, and i went to try for the "Old Ironjaw" achiev... i fished him up on my very first attempt... True story.. Went to try the "Old Crafty" When i was lvl 46 and fishing about 210 and tried over 500 times and didnt get it, then i got over it because horde kept killing me :P

Comment by Deffener

I'm 37 lvl Gnome Artisan Fishing.. I can't even start fishing anywhere, am I too short to fish, is it must to fish in deep water?

Comment by Micathius

About 650 casts today and got nothing but three hunters camping my naked fishing corpse. Think I'll try again next week.

Edit 5/10: Finally got him on cast 553 today. I did have the Crocolisks quest in my log, but I'm not quite sure if that helped or not. It was humorous seeing so many Alli standing around the entrance of the water, all fishing right along with me today.

Comment by Wizman87

I started at 250 fishing (with a +20 fishing pole, using no additional baubles or attachments) and then ended (or stopped) with 300 fishing - I never bothered to go see a trainer for my fishing profession since I knew soon enough that I would be heading to Northrend (requiring 305 fishing minimum), as you soon shall see and read on as to why in a minute. I casted 1,409 times for Old Ironjaw all the while standing and/or lying down in the back of The Forlorn Cavern within the city of Ironforge - coordinates (47,24) - as Alliance players passed by my Horde, Level 67 Tauren Druid, for approximately 3-5 hours straight (inbetween 5 to 30 minute intervals). I believe I was only noticed twice the entire time whilst fishing - though none of the passers-by were within level of attacking my character, so I was never fallen to becoming a victim of being "ganked" by any Alliance related players within the city. However, as a warning, low- or high-level Alliance players may or may not tell and/or notify others about your whereabouts through their city's global chat system, so be sure to take extra precaution(s) in concealing yourself as much as possible to avoid any "ganking" related deaths and run-backs while in ghost form - same goes for entering the city as well (you may instead want to use the backside tram subway system entrance to and from Stormwind and Ironforge to keep your presence to a minimum). It is generally very quiet and non-populated in the back of Ironforge throughout any day of the week, so you shouldn't run into too much trouble, if any, aside from the level 75 Ironforge Guards. You may want to bring some music and/or tunes along - or surf the net in the web browser of your choice - to run in the background whilst fishing to pass the time by. Fishing may also go by a lot faster for you if you use a trusty WoW add-on that I use - and personally swear by - specifically for fishing related tasks, that goes by the name of "Fishing Buddy". Also, I might add as a side note that after acquiring and/or fishing up Old Ironjaw in the latest patch of WoW - version 3.3.3 - with my trusty ol' Nat Pagle's Extreme Angler FC-5000 fishing pole, I received no Bind on Pickup (BoP) message confirmation box from within the loot window with auto-looting enabled.
__________________

829 (58.8%) - Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
303 (21.5%) - Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
261 (18.5%) - Raw Brilliant Smallfish
8 (0.6%) - 17 Pound Catfish
3 (0.2%) - Lesser Healing Potion
2 (0.1%) - 19 Pound Catfish
1 (0.1%) - 22 Pound Catfish
1 (0.1%) - Pattern: Heavy Woolen Cloak
1 (0.1%) - Old Ironjaw
0 (0.0%) - Trash, Greys, and Failed Attempts

Total (casts): 1,409 (100%)
__________________

*cough* Looks like I finally found an "iron-sturdy" replacement for the racial Undead's missing jaw bone.

Comment by FreezingMoon

Unfortunately, i'm another lucky person after getting Ironjaw and his achievement on about my 20th cast.

What made it worse was arriving to see two other fellow Horde who had been fishing in the same spot for 2 hours; I waltz in and grab the fish after getting the Fishing Diplomat achievement!

My gut instict of "Might as well blast 10 minutes on Ol' Ironjaw, should be a laugh" seems to have paid off immensely.

(That, and Death Knights are OP)

Comment by wackywack

If complaining helps, here is my complaint.

I have gone from beginning fishing at skill 1 to maxed out skill at 450, fishing nowhere but Ironforge.

To date, I still have NOT caught Old Ironjaw. :(

Comment by Melkoshi

Just caught this as a hordey, Used most of the advice already posted: track humanoid food to see whos nearby, sit in the lower left in the cavern, and took the tram to IF from SW.

Caught him at cast number 827. took around...4-5ish hours, was my 3rd visit there. Alot better then 6kish on old crafty e_e;

Comment by Kibs95

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Comment by 256328

I just got very,very lucky on my lvl10 Warlock and was able to catch him after only 125 casts. I was using a Aquadynamic Fish Attracter,and I got my fishing skill to 128,and cooking to 121. Good luck and Happy Fishing!

Comment by 613711

I just caught him after about 300 casts. I had been fishing for over an hour, and went to the AH to sell the fish that were overflowing in my bags. I went back to the Forlorn Cavern, and caught him on my third cast! It was exciting!

Comment by Tilbuddhist

YES! I got it. :D

I got it it after:
1 Old Ironjaw 0,131%
430 Longjaw Mudsnapper 56,283%
183 Bristle Whisker Catfish 23,953%
141 Brilliant Smallfish 18,455%
2 Bloated Mudsnapper 0,262%
3 17 pound Catfish * 0,393%
3 Lesser mana potions * 0,393%
1 Lesser Healing potion * 0,131%
763 loots in Total

* I only caught these at night, but that might be a coïnsidence.

It took me from around lvl 385 to 450 and longer after that.

Comment by 630773

Here are my results:

1000 Casts.

601x Longjaw Mud Snapper
217x Bristle Whisker Catfish
165x Brilliant Smallfish
4x 17 Pound Catfish
4x 19 Pound Catfish
2x 22 Pound Catfish
3x Lesser Mana Potion
2x Lesser Healing Potion
1x Gypsy Gloves
1x Infantry Boots

Times Ganked: 4

No Old Iron Jaw Yet!

Comment by Akario

2 Brilliant Smallfish, 4 Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish, 9 Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper, 1 Healing Potion, 1 Old Ironjaw
I think they may have increased the rate a little bit.

Comment by 635235

Took me NINE casts to get this as Horde in the Forlorn Cavern. I was so happy. It actually too me 4,377 casts to get the 15 pound mud snapper in Mulgore. Ah, the joys of RNG.

Comment by pancakemage

This beauty took me about 500 casts to fish up in the shallow circular ring of water in the Mystic Ward before they took out fishing in that particular spot. I did not get the fish at a very high skill level but I think it was over 200. Keep trying, happy fishing and good luck!

Comment by 405921

#showtooltip
/cast Fishing
/equip Fishing Pole
/equip Strong Fishing Pole
/equip Big Iron Fishing Pole
/equip Nat's Lucky Fishing Pole

Only equips the one I have in inventory at the time. So far, these are the only ones I've been able to get. Finally taking the time to work on my fishing.

I use that macro for all my toons. The keeps me from recasting on accident or while looting. Might help with those that recast when tryin to loot Ironjaw. So far, got him on two of my toons, Rogue was around 215 when he caught'em and my Pally just now at 145.

Comment by 206450

took me around 10 minutes to farm, if that.

I guess its a case of luck in some cases, me and a friend decided to go and do this at the same time, and he's still there trying to get it :)

Comment by 208404

Idk what everyone is complaining about with his low drop rate or something. I stealthed in as a Horde and caught it within 20 casts with an ally DK sitting right be side me. I also got the 500 fish caught in the same 20 casts.

(I'm totally jk. I've tried this soooo many times on my allies and had terrible luck. I'm just much more lucky with my Horde toons. Caught Old Crafty on my lvl 30 alt at 17 fishing skill. I know it can be very tedious, but don't think that just because it has a low drop rate you won't get it quick. Currently over 3000 casts with my ally into the IF pool and no luck.)

Comment by 640398

Do you need a certain fishing skill to get him?

Comment by outstanding

I had some insane luck with this fish considering I'm playing a horde character aswell. Was prepared to fish some hour and be ganked by alliance but I caught this on my second cast! Sometimes the gods smile upon you, or I was just lucky.

Comment by Eximius

As you cannot fish anymore in the Lava, I spent 2hours in the Forlorn Caverns which resulted in
Session 1 - 568 Fish - No Bite
Session 2 - 12 Fish - Winner Winner Chicken Dinner

My advice, don't be worried to walk away and don't be plagued with "If I stop now then it'd of dropped in the next cast...", because it will drop when it drops.

Best of luck to all players attempting this, particularly Horde!

Comment by Orcide

For those wondering if it is catchable in a raid group, it is. Got it at around 4000 casts.

Comment by 344145

I went to Ironforge on the fact of being bored, caught him on the first cast!

Comment by 662988

I just fished up my one in less than 600 tries ^^ i LOVE this achievement

Comment by rabiesarebad

Just caught this after 392 casts as horde. I stood at the very back middle of the Forlorn Cavern. Everyone just ran right past me, except for one hunter who killed me and one lv77 pally who fished with me. :)

Comment by ro4eva

You guys are gonna hate me but it only took me 25 minutes to catch Old Ironjaw. In contrast, yesterday after 4 days of fishing and 1941 casts, I caught the Sea Turtle. Random is random unfortunately. Here are the numbers:

Total Casts - 71
39 Longjaw Mud Snapper
17 Bristle Whisker Catfish
13 Brilliant Smallfish
1 17 Pound Catfish
1 Old Ironjaw

Old Ironjaw Screenshot - http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y90/ro4eva/OldIronjaw.jpg

Just for comparison here are the numbers from my 4 day fishing marathon to catch the Sea Turtle:

Total Casts - 1941 (1059 in Lake Kum'uya & 882 in Bittertide Lake)
798 Nettlefish
943 Musselback Sculpin
1194 Pygmy Suckerfish
101 Crystallized Water
93 Reinforced Crate
5 Barrelhead Goby
1 Sea Turtle

Sea Turtle Screenshot 1 - http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y90/ro4eva/turtle01.jpg
Sea Turtle Screenshot 2 - http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y90/ro4eva/turtle02.jpg

Comment by 410265

I think this was the most funny fishing achi as a horde. whole my guild went there and it was like 40 ppl.... and all fished. Allys dident even come close to use. But it took 3h be4 all got it...

Comment by 516833

: I don't think there's enough booze in the world for Amer to have actually done this..
: Stupid Old Ironjaw, but I need more points.
has earned the achievement !
has earned the achievement !
You receive loot: .
: Oh...
: Ther it is now.
: that wasn't bad at all.

After about half an hour worth of fishing earlier. I was terribly amused by it.

Comment by CircleofHealing

8 Casts!

The heavens opened, the angels danced, the harps played and Old Ironjaw is in the off hand. Priest must have been on a blessed day. Had one of old man Barlow's sharpened hooks on my Nat Pagel rod.

I levelled from lvl1 to grand master on my hunter....getting the 1000 fish on the way in the Folorn Cavern. Still haven't caught him on that one.

Comment by 251339

Took me 648 casts. It was painful but thankfully it didn't take me 1k+ or even 4k+ casts. :)

Comment by 616175

Wowhead gods, I'm begging you. Help me!

Comment by 656508

Finally! Old Ironjaw was my 756th fish!

I got you, Old Ironjaw!

471 Longjaw Mud Snapper
160 Bristle Whisker Catfish
125 Brilliant Smallfish
3 17 Pound Catfish
2 19 Pound Catfish
2 Lesser Healing Potion
1 Lesser Mana Potion
1 Old Ironjaw

I guess he really... *Puts shades on* ... bit the bullet this time.

YEEEEAAAAAHHH!

Comment by 463376

Finally caught him today! The guards in IF are now 85 and shoot you for 3k, plus there's flying gryphon guards who charge-stun you, died 3 times getting to forlorn cavern lol.

1159 RAW LONGJAW MUD SNAPPER
7 19LB CATFISH
7 17lb CATFISH
330 RAW BRILLIANT SMALLFISH
407 RAW BRISTLEWHISKER CATFISH
2 LESSER MANA POTION
3 LESSER HEALTH POTION
1 GREEN LEATHER BAG
2 BLOATED MUD SNAPPER - contained Tigerseye/Malachite
1 Soldier's Leggings of the Bear
1 Pattern: Green Woollen Bag

So...1920 casts in total it took me ;p

Comment by thehman59

3 raw longjaw mud snapper
1 raw bristlewhisker catfish
2 raw brilliant small fish
then 1 old ironjaw :D

either they increased the drop rate i was just insanely lucky

Comment by 338750

I was at the verge of giving up... I kept telling myself.. just one more cast, just one more cast. Then after 2539 casts, leveled my skill from 190 to 525.., even got myself The 1 Ring I finally GOT THIS FISH! Feeling incredibly happy right now! For those who's going for this achievement, don't give up!

Comment by 740522

caught old ironjaw on my 56th cast! F*** YEAH!

Comment by imnottubby

i got it on my 171st cast :)

114 longjaw mud snappers
34 bristle whisker catfish
22 brilliant smallfish

Comment by 743860

I don't think anyone has covered this achievement in Cataclysm yet. For Horde, the route there it's made much easier with flying mounts, but the fishing part remains highly unpredictable.

What I did was:

- Mount up and fly to Stormwind, in my case I departed from Stranglethorn Vale
- Head towards the Dwarven District tram terminal. This is located in the North East corner just above the 'S' and the 'T' on the world map. You will aggro a few guards, both air and land - but don't fret, head straight towards the terminal's entrance which is instanced and you will lose all aggro once you are inside.
- Take the tram. If the tram is not there I would highly recommend waiting for one instead of running the distance by foot.
- While you are on the tram do not under any circumstances jump off the tram, the run back is quite long.
- Get off the tram at the Ironforge terminal and leave the instanced zone into Ironforge.
- The area you are in now is Tinker Town, you need to head to southern Ironforge, to the Forlon Cavern. You will need to fly north through two sections, and you will not doubt aggro guards both air and land.
- Mount up and head towards Forlon Cavern as efficiently as you can. If you are able to get there without dismounting, the aggro from guards in the previous rooms will drop by the time you dismount at the pond.
- If you are dismounted and engage in combat, continue to run and head towards the pond as much as you can in the hope that you will be able to resurrect your corpse in or near the pond where there are no guards.
- Move to the back of the pond and start fishing!

I am currently on 385 fish and counting.

Happy fishing!

Comment by 753314

Been fishing this sucker for a few days now. Managed to max out my fishing to 525 from 450. Then used fishing buddy cause was getting sickened. Now caught 2K+ of fish. Guess i am very unlucky. /cry

Comment by Janetzky

A long time ago, I remember catching this from lava at The Great Forge.

Comment by lonewolf83

Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper - 809
Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish - 280
Raw Brilliant Smallfish - 207
Lesser Mana Potion - 4
19 Pound Catfish - 4
17 Pound Catfish - 4
Lesser Healing Potion - 2
Bandit Buckler of the Gorilla - 1
Hunting Pants - 1
Old Ironjaw - 1

1313 total casts. I guess my unlucky total bodes well for my lucky cast. He will forever have a spot in my bank.

Comment by tesh617

WOW i fished for 2 hours last night, got nothing. fished a half hour today, nothing. Did a heroic, came back 20 casts later i had a bloated mudfish AND old ironjaw! That's what i call lucky!

Comment by 758767

I caught it after catching just 31 fish!

Comment by 761926

I started playing wow like 3 weeks ago. My first toon is a Gnome, while passing through Ironforge for the first time, i decided to try my luck. I caught Old Ironjaw on my 23rd cast ever, without any lures or bait or anything :P f***in crazy luck. Its damn near impossible, but it happened. I took a screenshot cuz i knew no one would believe me lol Ive got friends that have played since '05 and have never caught him lmao http://www.flickr.com/photos/58140610@N05/5346634922/

Comment by 477123

6 Sessions adding up to 9hrs 53mins and 2315 casts.

1390 Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
503 Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
390 Raw Brilliant Smallfish
8 17 Pound Catfish
6 19 Pound Catfish
1 22 Pound Catfish
6 Lesser Mana Potion
4 Lesser Healing Potion
1 Bard's Bracers
1 Plans: Runed Copper Breastplate
1 Heavy Shortbow
1 Pattern: Phoenix Pants
1 Northern Shortsword
1 Bloated Mud Snapper > Yay! One bloated sucker down!
1 Old Ironjaw VICTORY, or DEATH!

Comment by 768943

Quick question, after about 3 days of fishing, and 2000+ loots, still coming up empty. Do I HAVE to have anything attached to my poles (lures, etc.), or can I just raw-dog this SOB? I've been fishing without lures or buffs, so I'm just wondering if it was possible.

Comment by 775169

I've fished him up on 2 chars now.

- The second time I caught him (fishing level 110) the sever time was 9.02 am and I had been fishing for a few minutes.
I don't know if he spawns at a certain time, but if you're having trouble cathing it, you can try fishing at 9.00am.

good luck.:)

Comment by 774700

I caught it on my level 6 warlock
only took me 40 casts

Comment by 716770

I got this after 3 hours while watching TV... playing horde so it's quite risky. One lock did mock me around but he was level 18...

Victory! leveled 350 to 500 in fishing.

Comment by Cemlub

Caught him today, here is my breakdown:

Raw longjaw mud snapper: 154
Raw bristle whisker catfish: 66
Raw Brilliant smallfish: 38
17 pound catfish: 2
Old Ironjaw: 1

Comment by 726314

Had better luck with Ironjaw than Crafty. Got it after about 2 hours of fishing I think?

Stats:

Ironforge: The Forlorn Cavern
Totals: 321 (312) | Skill: 525 +120
Longjaw Mud Snapper (193 : 60.2%)
Bristle Whisker Catfish (65 : 20.2%)
Brilliant Smallfish (59 : 18.3%)
17 Pound Catfish (2 : 0.6%)
Lesser Mana Potion (1: 0.3%)
Old Ironjaw (1 : 0.3%)

Comment by tobiashunter

Just got him on my Troll Shaman.

I've been fishing for him on and off for about a year. Usually about an hour or two once a month, nothing super hardcore. I was doing Archaeology when I decided to make a pitstops and try to get him. Here's the results from today's success:

Skill 394 -> 414
Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper - 134
Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish - 44
Raw Brilliant Smallfish - 38
Lesser Mana Potion - 1
Old Ironjaw - 1
Ganks/Deaths - 0

Good luck to all and keep on fishing!

Update: Got old Crafty the next day with only 4 casts. >.<

Comment by 800281

85 Belf Pally

I'd tried fishing both Old Crafty (and Old Ironjaw when i was Alliance) for probably about 5 hours combined about a year ago and gave up.

I was determined this time. Took about 4 days fishing for a couple hours each day to get Old Crafty in Orgrimaar. I just watched a movie and bound the commands to my mouse, clicking whenever i heard a splash. Kinda peaceful actually. Finally got it and the usual congrats in guild chat.

I still had some time that night so i figured i'd head over to IF to see how much trouble i was in for. Put on all junk clothes and snuck in through the upper windows, being especially careful of the flying guards, but none really came close at all to aggroing me. And very few Alliance in Ironforge now so no worries. I snuck to the very back of the cave wall and sat down, almost completely covered with water, an Alliance would have to be actually looking for me to find me. And none of the guards wander close enough ever.

About 30 casts in and 20 minutes after getting Old Crafty, boom Old Ironjaw lands in my lap. Pretty funny in guild chat and i wasn't too disappointed that i didn't finish watching my movie.

I don't really think the drop rate has increased at all, just lucky. Point is, as long as you expect hours and hours of fishing, and don't mind, you'll eventually get it. Good news for hordies is you don't really have to worry about getting ganked or harrased at all in Ironforge.

Comment by 804249

Caught him with a level 10 Dwarf who had level 21 fishing. How lucky can you be? Then took me about 400 casts with my main. Nightmare

Comment by 538504

I fished this up Today on my 13th cast. I know its just lucky and the RNG was kind to me. I just want to give hope to some people and let people know that it doesn't always take 1000's of casts. You can get lucky.

I had 474 Fishing, Was using the weather beaten Fishing hat and the Mastercraft Kalu'ak Fishing pole.

Also since Cata is out Ironforge is pretty dead, at least on my server. I did what another posts said to do which is stand in back of lake and cast /sleep. makes it super hard for alliance to see you.

Also if your trying for Old Crafty there is a really easy way to get him as well. (assuming they haven't changed it) You go to outlands and pick up the quest crocs in the city when its the daily. Go to org and fish. If you get the quest item before you get Old Crafty don't loot it and cast again. Can normal get him in less then 10 casts. I have heard of it taking people 15-20 but its a better chance at catching him while on this quest.

Comment by 562269

after I was hacked this is the one thing that blizz didnt return to me. I was upset, the hacker can have my gear and money but I will not accept being without old ironjaw. /sarcasm

Comment by 816818

I consider myself unlucky...
2191 catches. To be precise:

- Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper 1343x
- Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish 517x
- Raw Brilliant Smallfish 317x
- Lesser Healing Potion 5x
- 17 Pound Catfish 3x
- 19 Pound Catfish 2x
- Bloated Mud Snapper 2x (both contained Shadowgem)
- Veteran Armor 1x
- Old Ironjaw 1x (YAY)

Let's say the longer it takes, the more satisfaction it brings when you catch it :D
I did NOT have to press 'OK' to the 'Bind on Pickup' part because it was absent. Blizz probably removed it because too many people crashed their computers when they missed the achievement ^^

Good Luck to all who don't have this achievement yet!

btw if anyone wants to buy 1300 Longjaw Mud Snappers, they're on AH for 1 copper per stack ;)

Comment by 819664

I finally caught this fish! Here is a list of how many of what I caught till I got it.

(Took me 631 casts)

379 Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
140 Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
102 Raw Brilliant Smallfish
3 Lesser Mana Potion
2 17 Pound Catfish
1 19 Pound Catfish
1 Lesser Healing Potion
1 Spiked Club of the Bear
1 Shadow Wand
1 Old Ironjaw

Comment by Yabu

Caught him yesterday in the Forlorn Cavern, here is a breakdown:

80 Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
21 Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
16 Raw Brilliant Smallfish
1 17 Pound Catfish
1 Old Ironjaw

Happy hunting

Comment by 827312

Casts before Cata were around 3000
Stats since Cata:

Fishing Skill 525 + 115
Total: 1266
Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper 785
Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish 277
Raw Brilliant Catfish 190
17 Pound Catfish 7
19 Pound Catfish 2
Lesser Mana Potion 2
Lesser Healing Potion 1
Blue Leather Bag 1
The 1 Ring 1
Old Ironjaw 0

Ive tried in all different time of the day and night. This is over 3,000 casts with no luck. I know that a random % chance to drop is just that, and the more ou canst the % still stays low. Alot of people think that "Hey, if its %.1 drop chance, and I cast 1000 times Im sure to get it!"
This IS NOT TRUE! If the drop chance is %.1 than it will be %.1 on the 2,000 the same as it was on the first cast.
That being said, I do think that Blizzard should do something about this, sutch in having some kind of internal counter, so that when you do reach your 10,000 cast you get it just for being that stubborn.

Comment by 696191

x174 Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
x062 Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
x001 19 Pound Catfish
x001 Old Ironjaw
x002 Deaths

About the same with Old Crafty - did both of these within a day of each other.

Comment by xhavokx

80 odd casts and bang got him!

Comment by 604409

He was the 110th fish I caught in the Forlorn Cavern, using Nat's Lucky Fishing Pole, wearing a Weather-beaten Fishing hat and using the hat's lure on the pole. Oh, my Fishing skill was 347 when I caught him.

Comment by LadyFox

My second day I got Old Ironjaw. First day I was fishing for hours and only got the standards. Second day I did the daily quest Fish fer Squirky and with the last Blind Minnow Old Ironjaw dropped :-D Without a soulbound question.

Comment by Elvina

I got him after 284 catches!

Comment by Elemsham

Yeah, I just got it today. When I got there a human pally was already trying to catch him and after 2 hours and over 300 catches later I got him. Sad thing is the pally has been trying for 2 hours a day for the past 2 weeks... and you guys think youre unlucky! XD

Comment by trent77

I was wondering if he bites any time on the bober status bar or at the very end. Because I have had 3 bites at the very end of bobber life and do to my lag I have came up empty.

Comment by 241082

Fished up Old Ironjaw three minutes ago.

Items fished in the process:

90x Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
38x Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
30x Raw Brilliant Smallfish
1x 17 Pound Catfish

Approximately a half-hour spent at The Forlorn Cavern with 525 + 150 (Heat-Treated Spinning Lure) + 30 (Jeweled Fishing Pole) + 5 (Weather-Beaten Fishing Hat) = 710 Fishing skill. This actually took very close to the same amount of time to fish Old Crafty up and had extremely similar results in items obtained before acquiring either of them.

Comment by 640583

Just to illustrate the complete randomness with catching this crafty fella,

Figured i would throw a few lures out as i was in Ironforge for the midsummer festival (as horde)

555 fishing (525 skill + 30 from fishing pole):
9x Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
4x Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
2x Raw Brilliant Smallfish
1x Old Ironjaw

Though i was pleasantly suprised, It's worth mentioning that this is in no way an indication that the catchrate is much higher than suggested here. This post merely serves as additional data.

Good luck and godspeed, fisher(wo)men!

Comment by 746356

So I decided to try for Old Ironjaw tonight on my undead while I was in Ironforge to steal the midsummer fire. I was there for about two or three hours fishing. Since others posted what they got fishing before Old Ironjaw finally popped up, I decided to post my tally as well. Before Old Ironjaw bit, I caught approximately:
69 Raw Brilliant Smallfish
100 Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
267 Raw Longjaw Mud Snappers
a lesser healing potion
a 17 pound catfish
& a 19 pound catfish
Not to mention a couple daggers in the back and some arrows in the face by some allies who decided to double team me halfway thru my fishing trip. lol
*Note to other players* Requires much patience, but hang in there.

Comment by Kace

I spent the past 5 days or so fishing for Old Ironjaw, and I (FINALLY) fished him up today, after sitting for hours playing Bejeweled while I waited.

I fished him up after catching:

1707 Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
659 Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
473 Raw Brilliant Smallfish
13 Health/Mana Potions
9 17-Pound Catfish
7 19-Pound Catfish
2 Pieces of Green Gear
2 Bloated Mud Snappers

2872 total catches...ugh.

So glad that's over with...

Comment by 136408

Just to add a comment to the 'Random is totally random' angle, I just got Ironjaw in 39 casts. My wife about fell over in shock given hers took so long she had her niece sitting there clicking fishing when she was visiting one weekend..

Random is random!

Comment by 850812

Been trying for this on my main for ages, started leveling my shaman and randomly decided to start fishing...
little did i know 12 skill points in i would get the achieve I went so crazy i actually broke my mouse when i threw it!

Moral of the story... don't fish with alts >.<

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/blades-edge/Sh%C3%A1d%C3%B3w/statistic#132:178

6 fish caught and one of them was Old Ironjaw =(

Comment by Zeratoul

it is very easy to enter IF since you can fly in azeroth just fly close to the ceiling and head to the forlorn caverns. I've been fishing for 2 days for about 5 hours of fishing and still i can't catch it. And i catched old crafty in ogrimmar twice in less than 1 hour wtf lol

Comment by 842520

Ugh! This is a frustrating achievement. I have fished up over 1100 fish and still no Ironjaw! Been fishing for 3 days. I'll be an Illustrious Grand Master Fisherman before it's all said and done. At 520 right now.

Comment by 783550

put on a glow worm and caught it my second cast! fishing level 460

Comment by naichau

Just achieved on a level 16, took my fishing from 101 to 211. Spent about 3 - 4 hours.
Also got my cooking skill from 141 to 173 through cooking Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish.
359 casts total:
67 Raw Brilliant Smallfish
210 Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
79 Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
1 17 Pound Catfish
1 Lesser Mana Potion
1 Old Ironjaw

First character I've ever got him on! :D

Comment by Trinket90

Whew! This took me several hours, but not as long as some.

716 Casts:
Longjaw Mud Snapper - 57%
Bristle Whisker Catfish - 23%
Brilliant Smallfish - 7%

17 Pound Catfish - 1 catch
Recipe: Elixir of Minor Agony - 1 catch
The 1 Ring - 1 catch
Lesser Healing Potion - 1 catch

And of course Old Ironjaw himself! I was only killed twice by Alliance, since it was mostly deserted. I had stripped anyway, so I just let them kill me and run back. Later there were 2 other Horde fishing with me, so the Alliance left us alone.

Not as bad as it could have been--but I'm VERY glad it's over!

Comment by 329098

I'm fishing for three hours now... I'm soooo close to just comming back when im 85. Haha. (72 now) And a guildie of mine caught it after 45 mins... pff. unfair!

Comment by Dylanhaas

The way i caught this was that I said that i was gunna fish there as long as i had to to get it and I got it on my 28th cast lol.

Comment by techkyle

I caught Old Ironjaw while I was on this page reading comments on how to catch Old Ironjaw. Background noises, video set to Windowed (Fullscreen), auto-loot on. I heard the sound, looted, recast, alt+tab'd back out and heard the achievement pop. Took about 10-15 minutes.

I find it rather odd that "The legendary uncatchable fish of Ironforge" vendors only for a round or two of Southshore Stout.
I was expecting scantily clad women to rain down from the heavens, noobs to pwn themselves in my presence, ALL OF AZEROTH TO BOW TO MY AWESOME POWER. Instead, all I got was this frog.

Comment by Fuzzidio

This Fish is really annoying, i leveled my fishing from 1-530 trying to catch this fish and no luck

Comment by 600621

Just caught Ironjaw on my level 6 gnome rogue. Fishing skill was only level 28 and was using the plain fishing pole with only the cheap fishing lure. Lol!

Comment by 866721

I have been working on this for the last two years and still can't fish him up. we are talking over 8000 casts and no luck. so here is my wish for everyone else~ have better luck then me. and as a side note, I'm getting realy tired of fishin in ironforge... ug

Comment by 871055

Actually, i was fishing for him with one with one of my friends, and I caught him twice. It took me all about 30 minutes from me catching the first Old Ironjaw.

Comment by 877264

Guess I had a lucky week...
Last Sunday I got my Lucky Fishing Hat during the fishing tournament (&another +5 fishing line).
Monday I received a Bone Fishing Pole from the daily fishing quest (still prefer my Jeweled one)
Tuesday I found Lil' Timmy and got my white Kitten in Stormwind (after about 2 hours waiting in the courtyard for him), to add to my other 4 cats, chicken, 2 moths, 2 Parrots, bunny, raptor, crab and balloon.
Then Wednesday night while riding through the courtyard doing the daily quest I stumbled on him again (and got a 2nd kitten I couldn't resist) and followed him his whole route.
Then last night after doing the fishing daily in Ironforge, since I had some +75 lures to waste, I stepped to the back of the pool threw out my fishing line about a DOZEN times and caught Old Ironjaw and got the achievement (I don't remember him requiring me to answer "yes" to bind, but maybe I oked it without thinking about it). Note: that's who I was fishing for...didn't realize he was that hard to catch?
I'm not sure why people recommend bringing empty bags, I just recasted whenever I got a fish I didn't want...no sense in keeping them if I'm maxed out fishing (and I'm not hungry).
To review: I'm a maxed out fisher, wearing a Lucky Hat +5, with my new bone pole +30 and a +75 fishing lure, fishing from the back (center) of the pool in the Forlorn Cavern and caught Old Ironjaw in about a dozen casts and looked for and watched as the achievement flashed on me screen...
Lucky week

Comment by 877924

I am sorry to brag, but I have to be the luckiest horde to every enter Ironforge, and fish up Old Ironjaw. I went to the backside of the cavern, fished twice, then realized I needed to equip the lure from the fishing hat; and with the next cast I fished up Old Ironjaw. A smile just crossed my faced, I yelled a couple times with praise, and got the hell out of there.

3 Casts...
516 Fishing
+ 25 fishing rod
+ 5 fishing hat
+ 75 fishing from hat lure

Comment by Immortalsoul

My sister's 20 and she saw me fishing one time and she was all like "Thats so cool, can I try? Hah? Hah? Can I?" and when she tried, I couldnt play wow for 2 weeks bcuz of her fishing all the time. So I thought I could take advantage of that and sent her to fish Old Ironjaw and I was all like "Ok, listen here. Its one of the rare fishes in game, so you'll prolly try to fish it up for hours!" Then she started... I went to the other room to watch some TV and in less than a minute, she came and told me "I cought something with green name". Went to see, she cought Old Ironjaw for 4 casts... Now she's doing all my rare fishing achievements. :)

Comment by Eekwibble

I really hope this is moggable in 4.3. I so want to fight Deathwing with a fish!

Comment by jenesism

Heya...What I did was just fly in as fast and as far as I could get in, b 4 being killed by guards..then walked back to my body..ran again as far as I could get..made it to the fishing spot..was killed by guards..then when u rez u r right there and no guards around. Also did it in the am...put on hat, pole and lure..sleep and fished..got it after about 150 fish..woot..very lucky!

Comment by 895256

Just done this on a level 6 pally.Fished from 1-107 and 108 was Old Ironjaw

Comment by Cyberknight13

I got him today after 78 casts...

Comment by 900238

got him in 3 casts :)

Comment by Uglius

934 fish before cought this ugly fellow...
And second time i'm fishing it(don't remember numbers but i guess fished half thousand or so that time)...
I think i'm quite unlucky :D

Comment by GWARslave

Ok so after 4 hours and a bit drunk I FINALLY caught him.

Started at 6:30ST and ended at 11ST, with roughly 10-15 miscasts and a couple few minute breaks in-between,
I was determined to catch this mofo.

Catch breakdown...

17 Pound Catfish x4
19 Pound Catfish x1
Lesser Healing Potion x2
Lesser Mana Potion x3
Old Ironjaw x1
Raw Brilliant Smallfish x155
Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish x181
Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper x559

906 casts total (not including miscasts)

In The Forlorn Cavern of course.

Comment by 677226

Toon caught this is an alt, Fishing buddy keeps data for my other toon fishing here as well. Best I can guess is in about 25 casts i got it.
Used fishing buddy to keep track of fish, problem is keeps the overall
totals for all my toon, not separate ones. Other problem is cant reset it, still working on that issue.
Realm: Velen
time: around 12:20 EST(9:20 server)

no lures, ordinary pole
skill 217(why do you think i'm fishing here)

Longjaw Mud Snapper 73
Bristle Whisker Catfish 27
Brillian Smallfish 17

Comment by Lolus

3300 casts and no Ironjaw, wondering at what time of the day he is available or if my server is bugged, nobody I know needed more than 1500 casts

Comment by Katscratch

66x Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
182x Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
37x Raw Brilliant Smallfish
3x 17 Pound Catfish
1x 19 Pound Catfish

Took about 2 hours to catch Old Ironjaw

Comment by MrDiamondJ

On Destromath it's taking me forever to catch this guy (Forlorn Cavern in Ironforge). I'm 525 fishing and I'm probably at about the 2500 cast mark, if not more. I've probably been fishing for around 10 hours total.

Comment by al1978

after 365 fishes i caught it. finally.

:)
enjoy

Comment by Cypzik

Either they have nerfed this or I'm mad lucky.

After dying 4 times geting into Ironforge I literally got this achievment on my second cast.
So - anyone looking to get this - you might look into it. Might be nerfed.

Comment by fschwalenberg

Just caught Old Iron Jaw today had my Weather-Beaten Fishing Hat (use: adds 75 to fishing), Jeweled Fishing pole (Adds 30 to fishing Skill), Captain Rumsey's Lager (adds 10 to fishing), and Bright Baubles (adds 75 to fishing) Fishing Skill 525 before adds caught in 5 cast.

Comment by Shankney

Was sit here for over half an hour, no luck with him so I went to do some level 60 raids

Comment by Kronzlife

I caught Old Ironjaw and Old Crafty today, Crafty took 5 hours and 625 casts, Ironjaw took 1 hour 45 minutes and 248 casts. Just thought i would throw that out there. Rexxar server. Fishing lvl 525 with +150 engineering lure.

Comment by dakoa

@ Skill 525+13 (538) 344 Casts
Longjaw mud snapper 210 - 61%
Bristle Whisker Catfish 67 - 19,5%
Brilliant Smallfish 63 - 18,3%
17 Pound Catfish 1 - 0,3%
Bloated mud Snapper 1 - 0,3%
19 Pound Catfish 1 - 0,3%
Old Ironjaw 1 - 0,3%

Comment by Undalyn

I feel extreme pity for all of you with 8k+ casts. I just got it expecting to have to to all that, but figured I could sell the lavascales as a source of income. I have played WoW since vanilla, yet never leveled fishing. Check my armory for achieve, Undalyn on Garona. Fishing skill: 32.

Once again, almost no reason to level fishing xD. Now for the other one......bet I get it before max fishing

Comment by 621659

Just caught him, took me a reasonable time.
Did it as horde: Just use flying mount to get there , swim to the back of the cave and fish from there.
I had 2 alliance coming to hit me ( they were low lvl ), had to kill them once so they would fish in peace with me, other than that it was all fine!
Good luck on your farm!

Total of 544 casts
329 x Longjaw Mud Snapper
120 x Bristle Whisker Catfish
92 x Brilliant Smallfish
2 x Lesser healing potion
1x Old Ironjaw :)

Comment by chestit

I got old ironjaw in 168 casts. so much for not being able to get it in less then 500 casts.

Comment by 956723

GOT IT:D

Comment by 957052

OLD IRONJAW 101

"Y'all know me. Know how I earn a livin'. I'll catch this bird for you, but it ain't gonna be easy. Bad fish. Not like going down the pond chasin' bluegills and tommycods. Old Ironjaw, swallow you whole. Little shakin', little tenderizin', an' down you go. And we gotta do it quick, that'll bring back your tourists, put all your businesses on a payin' basis. But it's not gonna be pleasant. I value my neck a lot more than three thousand bucks, chief. I'll find him for three, but I'll catch him, and kill him, for ten. But you've gotta make up your minds. If you want to stay alive, then ante up. If you want to play it cheap, be on welfare the whole winter. I don't want no volunteers, I don't want no mates, there's just too many captains on this island. $10,000 for me by myself. For that you get the head, the tail, the whole damn thing."

My stats:
101 casts ! Skill 525+25 (no lures)
54: Longjaw Mud Snapper
23: Bristle Whisker Catfish
22: Brilliant Smallfish
1: 19 Pound Catfish
1: Old Ironjaw.

Dont know what all the fuss is about !
Must be my lucky day :)

Comment by drewciferjenkins

I managed to fish The Uncatchable Fish of Ironforge up on exactly my 100th cast (which took about half an hour).

fish breakdown
64 Raw Longjaw Mud Snappers
19 Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
15 Raw Brilliant Smallfish
1 Lesser Healing Potion
1 Old Ironjaw

I sat in the back of the lake where it is apparently too shallow to swim but is just deep enough to conceal you. (although i was disguised as a gnome using Burgy Blackhearts Handsome Hat).A couple druids flew over me but didnt notice.

Comment by firiun

2215 fish later...

Comment by 966435

Got it on my 7th try. How jelly could one be?

Comment by 855593

I believe I have been subjected to the most insane amount of ''luck'' ever to occur within the Warcraft Universe. I read the account of one who attempted to catch Old Crafty from the warm waters of Orgrimmar and thought it appropriate I share my own experience.. with one even greater.

It was a quiet evening, I silently emerged from the gloom of The Forlorn Cavern. The steady dripping of water over the dark rock was all that made noise, or movement. This forgotten, shadowy corner of Ironforge was the perfect realm for a monster of a wit and strength that is matched by only one, but his is a story yet to come. I approached the still, sapphire pool and gazed over the domain of this scaled legend. The waters surface seemed calm and clear, deceiving a depth and darkness I cannot fathom. It was from this aquatic void that I would learn of a talent I had never dreamed I could possess. An ability to rival every Angler, Mariner and all manner of Fishermen in every corner of The Great Dark. A skill, I never knew, that would be woven into the fabric of my very being. Into my soul, dominated by an unwavering drive to take the monsters of the light less depths. For my legacy. For my most respected catch. I could never have known, nor have comprehended what was to happen moments from drawing my Pole.

It was a clean cast. Short, yet graceful as it arced high, landing softly in the crystal pool. I was not disappointed, within seconds I had a bite. A sizable Catfish. Impressive, but no grand catch. I placed the the fish in my barrel, and as I turned my back.. I felt it. Weak at first, and then it grew. Anxious, I spun around.. I was greeted by the moment that scarred my heart, the memory that will never be forgotten the burning flame that was born within me that frosty night. Our eyes locked from beneath the gentle, rocking surface of the lake, and I felt him. I felt his being shift into mine.. and we became one. What happens next is history. For a brief moment I saw The Great Dark flash in an explosion of radiant light! The shadowed tendrils of The Twisting Nether enveloped me. All turned to silver - white. I was One.

I let back my Rod and with a cast that disappeared from sight, I, Re birthed, felt his ancient teeth grasp the firm hook as if they were my own. I felt the tip drive into his withered jaws as a searing pain shot through mine! .. I screamed with agony and, for but a brief second, loosened my grip of the line. Yet, the molten desire that took hold of me at that moment, when I knew that I could no longer be barred by the fabric of this world, burned a fury of desire I had never felt. A heave of perfect balance, with the strength of a Titan.. and I finally saw the beast. A swirling vortex of sparkling indigo, and purest white. The legendary being skimmed off the shimmering lake and was thrown against my chest with a force so great my feet shot out from beneath me, and I hurtled towards the cobbled rock of the Traveling Fishermen. Before I pulled Lago out from under me. Before Grimnur could pull his jaw up and form a coherent sentence.. Ironjaw looked into me, the world around seemed to dull and halt.. Although skepticism will be ever present.. he spoke. He said in a hoarse but peaceful voice, '' I have lived long, Night Elf. Long enough to grow wise of your world.'' '' In the countless millenia that I have swam Azeroths' endless oceans, none have been worthy of ending me.. Until now''. '' I feel the flame within you, a passion of insatiable hunger''. '' I, give you this gift, Ghosties''. '' I give you the strength to end the lives of my greatest kin''. '' To end the suffering of their immortality''. '' Go, Ghosties, with my blessing.'' ''Bring... peace.'' As the world brightened and began to spin once more. As I breathed his last breath. As I saw the milky light fade in his eyes, I knew my purpose. I would take from the greatest of the Angler's prey they're burdening existences of age, madness and pain. I would ascend to a legend. A myth. A god.

Ghosties, the Night Elf who caught Ironjaw, the mightiest of Mud Snappers.. With two flicks of a Graphite Fishing Pole.

Comment by 970148

Just took me about 50-60 Catches from 200-229 Skill. I also had /DnD Fishing like a boss. Maybe this method will work for other players XD

Comment by Devilmedic

I just caught this bad boy after about 1000 casts while leveling my fishing at Forlorn Cavern. When I started fishing I was at 225, when I caught Old Ironjaw I was at 425.

Comment by Snayjay

I hate all of you that have caught this fix and your math sucks. Currently I'm just over 2700 fish caught and still no Old Ironjaw.

Comment by 926097

As a troll, I took the portal in orgrimmar to the twilight highlands then just flew west to ironforge. I'm a rogue, so I was naked except for a crap dagger in my main hand to sap with. If you make friends with a rogue or cat druid that could easily sneak in like me, and who has mass summons, they could probably get you in without your gear getting trashed.

Comment by Alozaps

So it took me 5200 catches to get Old Crafty, and now I'm at 2500 catches in Ironforge and I've yet to catch Old Ironjaw. Are you kidding me? Most people that have bad luck getting one fish get the other one quickly... but not me. I've had mega patience throughout all of this but my bad luck is really starting to piss me off. At this rate, I'll be getting Mr. Pinchy's pet at 20k+ catches.

Comment by 837761

I fished up Ironjaw after a day of fishing, today I accidently fed an off-hand, to my hunter pet...

Comment by 665081

Finally caught this fellow a few minutes ago, took me roughly 4 days on and off, I had 2334 casts.
525 skill + Mastercraft Kalu'ak Fishing Pole.

Comment by Falkor

picked up fishing today on a whim, caught old ironjaw within catching 150 fish. finally rng goes my way in this game!

Comment by 983833

365 Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
142 Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
114 Raw Brilliant Smallfish
4 17-Pound Catfish
1 Lesser Healing Potion
1 22-Pound Catfish
1 Old Ironjaw

628 Total
3 hours 46 minutes, approximately and non-consecutively

Comment by itsmissfacetoyou

So I just decided to try for this achievement. I've been holding off because I've been dreading it.. but luck must have been on my side for the first time during my years of playing because I maybe only had about 40 or so casts. I'm sure I'll go back to my bad luck soon....

Comment by 997533

Just took about 10 mins while doing Fish fer Squirky daily quest, got
10 raw longjaw mudsnapper
3 raw bristle whisker catfish
3 raw brilliant smallfish
1 17 pound cat fish
and finally the old ironjaw
when i read the posts thought twice to try and get it "dind´t wanted to spend a lot of time on this thing" so just try to do the daily and then until the dungeon finder got me a dungeon. by the way i have 215 fishing skill
maybe rate its better know or just really good luck

Comment by Malakhi

For reference to those who like specific numbers. My 2 day, 5 hour trek for this fish took a total of 975 casts.

Comment by rfasanel

Since Cata, no one is ever in Ironforge. Easy to fly right in and land in the Forlorn Cavern.

Took me around 400 casts.

Good luck.

Comment by 939669

I put up my mind to catch Old Ironjaw from The Forlorn Cavern in Ironforge.
It went like this... I started at 17:45 danish time and ended at 17:51 danish time.

I caught: 14x Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper, 3x RawBrilliant Smallfish, 7x Raw bristle Whisker Catfish and last but not least the famous Old Ironjaw.

I have tried before without help and then i thought, "maybe it would help if I took time on it"... And BANG! Old Ironjaw... Maybe if you have fishing for a while do what i did, maybe it helps you too... Good luck fishing...!

Now i will go for Old Crafty and do the same...

Seme Britalje Draiman

Comment by 900996

For those who were able to complete this in about 200 catches, you are lucky. I have spent 3 hours and over 1000 catches and still have yet to complete this achievement.

The easiest part was flying through IF to get to Forlorn Cavern as lvl 85. If you are lower than that, you might go in a group, stealth or wait until you can fly through IF. You generally do not have to worry about most Alliance killing you, that is with the exception of Hunters and Druids. Well, you might have to worry about Rogues, but I never saw one (LOL).

I did this on my SP and a Dwarf hunter could tell I had been their for 2 hours just fishing. He was fishing as well, but kept logging on and off. After 2 hours, a Night Elf hunter showed up and they decided to kill me. Honestly, I couldn't care less, expected to have been killed a lot more before then, and wondered if they thought I would engage in a fight. PUHLEEEZ! I am a squishy and never would have a chance against 2 pets and 2 hunters on me. I am no where near that skilled. So, why would I waist time in a fight? I had a good laugh, rezzed and kept fishing.

Anyway, you are better off just taking the hits, and not engaging as others might just leave you alone, just dying, and waiting until they leave your corpse. Or just keep rezzing back and eventually they will get bored and go away. If you have over 4 hours of time to waste on catching this, then at least make it a bit more exciting and see how long they will waste their time on you! :) My only other suggestions is: 1) take of your gear so you do not receive durability damage; 2) put on a tabard - non Horde of course - if you don't like being in your undies; and 3) don't emote unless they emote at you (even though mine was nice...that is when they decided to kill me...lol). Anyway, best of luck to all you fellow fishers!

Comment by tallie

I was very lucky to get Old Ironjaw after about 110 tries using Jeweled Fishing Pole, one Glow Worm and Weather-Beaten Fishing Hat. I was at about 495 fishing skill when I finished. Good luck, all :)

Comment by Lhmargentdawn

Just landed Old Ironjaw on my 12th cast of the evening. Unfortunately for me this is not my first attempt at landing him.

Total Casts 2,521
Too much rubbish to mention.

Glad that's over. Now to go fish up a rat.....

Lhm
Heroic Outcasts
EU-Terenas

Comment by 507760

Hopefully this works like it has for some of you:

2166 casts -- no fish
Longjaw Mud Snapper x1295
Lesser Healing Potion x2
Lesser Mana Potion x5
The 1 Ring x1
22 Pound Catfish x1
17 Pound Catfish x4
Brilliant Smallfish x356
19 Pound Catfish x4
Bristle Whisker Catfish x498

Here's hoping I catch him, soon. I'll update the post accordingly.

Edit: After another 700 casts I caught it, worst luck I've ever had on a fish.

Comment by Embrae

1626 Cast

994 Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
362 Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
258 Raw Brilliant Smallfish
5 17 Pound Catfish
3 19 Pound Catfish
1 22 Pound Catfish
1 Lesser Mana Potion
1 Hunting Belt
1 Old Ironjaw

Comment by MrDiamondJ

Finally reeled this guy in tonight.

I don't even know how many casts it took me to get him...probably around 2500. After a while I stopped keeping track. I never quit though. I knew, one day, my persistence would pay off. I knew that one day I would fly out of Ironforge victorious, never to set foot in The Forlorn Cavern again. Never again would I gaze upon that row of dimly-lit shops; never again would I keep lonely watch over Ransin Donner's solitary vigil as his pet Murky shuffled back and forth. Never again would I cast, cast, and cast again...attach a Bright Bauble, a Glow Worm...and cast again.

Old Ironjaw, I just couldn't quit you. Now, I am free.

Comment by 1020405

I used to love fishing on wow. I remember being on a mate's account and i caught 2 of these in a row. Not sure if i still have the screen shot though.

Comment by 815876

Couldn't believe this. Randomly decided to level fishing on my priest while waiting for the Tol Barad queue, barely casted the line 10 times and caught Old Ironjaw. I got it before even getting the 25 Fish achievement.... All those hours spent fishing on my Death Knight wasted. :(

Comment by jonsuth

You gotta be KIDDING me with this fish! Hours and hours wasted so far...

Comment by 1022295

This fish is really all based on your luck, There is no way of increasing it or making you not able to catch it.
As of right now on my warrior i have caught:

3420- Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
1893- Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
1342- Raw Brilliant Smallfish
21- Lesser potions
15- 17 Pound Catfish
5 - 19 Pound Catfish
2- 21 Pound Catfish
1 - Random Tigerseye
0- Old Ironjaw

On my mage i caught it on my second cast.
Best advice, Turn on some relaxing music/movie, get comfy, and just hope that you get lucky and try to have some fun.

Comment by 634079

In case anyone is taking all of this down and doing the math, which I doubt lol I Decided not to leave my seat and continually cast until I caught him. Took me 214 Raw Longjaw Mudsnapper, 96 Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish, 50 Raw Brilliant Smallfish, 2 19 Pound Catfish, 2 Lesser Mana Potion and 1 Lesser Health Potion.... finally 1 Old Ironjaw. In all, caught on cast number 366. This was at level 85 with the Mastercraft Kaul'ak Fishing Pole, Weather Beaten Fishing Hat, and a Heat-Treated Spinning Lure.

Comment by Stizelswik

ok my catches took a couple hours on and off before getting the big bad guy (so he thought lol). All total I only caught 92 fish and 4 other items before I hooked him. Not bad for a fishing novice!

Comment by Allakhazam

I was quite lucky as I only spent an hour fishing until I caught him.
I caught 54 catfish,38 smallfish,87 snappers, 22lb catfish and a 17lb catfish before I caught old ironjaw.

Edited, Feb 28th 2009 11:16am by theawesomehunter

Comment by Allakhazam

I have been trying to fish for Old Ironjaw for 3 days now and still haven't caught him! It's a lot harder to try and catch him when you're a horde lvl 73 toon trying to fish in alliance territory, so my butt keeps getting attacked and killed every 5 to 10 minutes. I spend approximately 4 minutes releasing, running and rezzing which drastically cuts down the possibility rate of catching Ironjaw. Sure, being a warlock I could soulstone, but why waste all my shards? Any suggestions on how I can omprove my chances of catching the darn fish? My fishing skill is maxed out at 475, I have Truesilver fishing line on my pole and it's the Nat Pagle fishing pole. Any info would be helpful

Comment by Allakhazam

After 2 hours... 226 Mud snappers, 83 Catfish, 65 Small fish, 3 19lb Catfish, 1 lesser mana pot, and 1 17lb Catfish... And still no Achievement

Comment by Allakhazam

Anyone know if he drops in the pool just outside where you appear when you port to IF? Theres about 20 peeps fishing at the forlorn cavern, and noone at the pool... I been trying at forlorn cavern for just over FIVE hours, and gone from 313-388 fishing, and still nothing...

Comment by Allakhazam

YES! FINALLY! Took me just under 3 and a half hours of constant fishing in the Forlorn Cavern in Ironforge to catch Old Ironjaw! I was so happy that I was left alone in order to accomplish this. There were a couple of moments that I thought I was gonna get killed but I thought of something that saved me from being attacked. As soon as I saw any alliance players, I immediately /hug them. That was the universal code that said "hey i'm friendly, have mercy and don't kill me".

If you are Horde and want to accomplish the Old Ironjaw achievement, get into Ironforge, Forlorn Cavern, stand or sit at the very back, have lots of patience and enough energy drinks to keep you from falling asleep, /hug anybody who comes near you and pray they don't kill you. if that doesn't work, create an alliance toon, get into general chat and plead with everyone to leave the horde toon alone.

GOOD LUCK!

Comment by Allakhazam

I found that /sleep and /afk work very well to help keep the alli. from killing my horde toon. It also helps to /beg /cry /hug /bow and in general be very humble. Been fishing for about 2 hours with no luck so far.

Comment by Allakhazam

i caught him oh yeah!

Comment by Allakhazam

Well all I can say is that its completly random I equiped my Revered pole from the Kaluak (or whatever they are), my fishin hat,water walking potion and the 1hour fishing lure (probably didnt need all that) but I got him in the back of the cave in about 18min.

Comment by Allakhazam

Reeled in from the Forlorn Cavern. Did not he existed until I caught him.
I'll post a picture.

Braghlinn/Azuremyst

Comment by Allakhazam

I just caught him in ironforge

Comment by Allakhazam

I walked up to the pond, after running down to Booty Bay for the book, first cast WHAM got him, fishing skill was 155 or so (I did a little fishing at the bay). Thought way kewl, I'll log on my other toon and get him too...

THREE HOURS LATTER I AM STILL SITTING THERE.....

Luck is finicky isn't it.

Comment by Allakhazam

I have about 6 hours total trying to get him, and see the guy beside me gets the achievement....arrrgggggggggghhh
Then I notice he also got the achievemnent "Catch 100 fish " at same time.

Curse you randomness....

Comment by Allakhazam

Fished for two hours an all I got was a blister on my finger..

Comment by Allakhazam

OK Folks... try this... I was fishing Forlorn Caverns for about an hour. I tried all different areas, with no luck. I then concentrated on clicking at the last possible second, before the green disappears from the bar and WALA... I got him on my second try.

Good luck!

Comment by Allakhazam

I just got him, took less than 10 minutes in the forlorn cavern.

Not that I think it mattered (but who knows), I used water walking elixir and walked out about half way away from the other people fishing.

Comment by Allakhazam

Well I just caught him... and let him go by accident >.< Clicked on the Fishing button again and lost him. I had autoloot on so I thought it'd just pick him up, but since he's BoP - even though I wasn't in a party - it gave me the message 'This is bind on pickup' or whatever the looting message is. Now I'm a fish my life away in IF until some alliance kills me. *sigh* Maybe I'll get lucky and catch him again later on today...

Comment by Allakhazam

Allakhazam lists the drop percentage on so many other game items, I'd love to see it here. I just skilled my fishing from 290 to 401 in IF, and I didn't catch Old Ironjaw. As near as I can tell, no one else did either (I didn't see any Achievement notification that they had).

Comment by Thottbot

Caught him nov 23. about 40 cast

Comment by Thottbot

got him after catching 52 longjaw mud snappers, 18 bristle whisker catfish, and 7 brilliant smallfish

Comment by Thottbot

I caught Old Ironjaw over a month ago, and I shouted out in glee--announcing to all my fisherman's catch. No one knew what he was, so they all gathered in the Forlorn Cathern, in Ironforge, to try and catch him for themselves. It took me 16 casts to catch him; but the sizeable crowd that had gathered at my fishing spot had no such luck. I continued to fish along with them, and half an hour later I cought him again; I stuck around for another 2 hours to level my skill and no one among the 30 odd people that were fishing like madmen were able to catch Old Ironjaw... I walked away with fish in hand.

The best part about this is that not long afterward, and without actual intention, I got a Dark Whelpling while questing casually in the Bad Lands... I guess you can never underestimate a rogue's luck.

Comment by Thottbot

I caught Old Ironjaw on Christmas Day, 2007! Caught him again on December 30. So much for uncatchable.

Comment by Thottbot

Lol just got mine i fished 61 fishes when i found him, but was it rly worth the wait?

Comment by Thottbot

CHEERS! Caught him at Level 22 Fishing! Black Dragonflight Server. Its so awesome. Will never get rid of this little guy.

Comment by Thottbot

OMG i got him :)

Comment by Thottbot

I caught Old Ironjaw too. I've never heard of Old Ironjaw till now lol

Comment by Thottbot

Ran into ironforge on my 70 troll hunter and caught it 1st cast, was pretty epic.

Evilpoptart, Executus or GTFO.

Comment by Thottbot

It is very possible for the Horde to catch this fish (as well as the Alliance to catch it's Horde counterpart - Old Crafty https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=34486/old-crafty)

The only catch (no pun intended) is getting into Ironforge (or Orgrimar) Best time is off hours late at night or early morning...find a corner (I've posted a screenie of best location I've found)...and hope no one sees you :P

Caught mine after 2 hours of fishing / getting ganked / rezzing / fishing (rinse and repeat)

Comment by Thottbot

i got old ironjaw on my alliance warlock on uldum while getting my fishing skill up for the new fishing daily quest

Comment by Thottbot

it took 218 casts but i finally got it woohoo

but it sucks because they need to make fishing poles 1h so you can hold your prized fish in the offhand

oh well still cool!

Comment by Thottbot

Took about 200 casts to get him the first time, then I accidentally pushed new cast and he was gone :S now after 870 fishies no luck ;(

Comment by Thottbot

can u say lvl 1 twink?

Comment by Thottbot

I had 20 minutes to kill before going to work. So, I thought I'd do a little to get my fishing up a bit (240 then) and caught Old Ironjaw after about 15 casts. I've been looking for him for about six months since my noob brother caught him and gloted on me.

The only downside was that I was so excited that I had to change my pants before going to work....

Comment by Thottbot

I must have the worst luck in the world. I've been fishing The Forlorn Cavern for days, over 2700 casts between getting killed and running back (I'm a Tauren). I've caught everything on the list at least twice. I keep telling myself just a few more casts, then I can go do something productive......

I've discovered you can actually fish while sleeping, so I lay down against the back wall and fish away, until I'm noticed. Is it possible this guy can only be caught in certain area's of the pool?

Here's my catch so far:

Longjaw Mud Snapper (1687: 61.1%)
Bristle Whisker Catfish (567: 20.5%)
Brilliant Smallfish (478: 17.3%)
17 Pound Catfish (13: 0.5%)
Lesser Healing Potion (6: 0.2%)
Lesser Mana Potion (5: 0.2%)
19 Pound Catfish (3: 0.1%)
22 Pound Catfish (2: 0.1%)
Bloated Mud Snapper (2: 0.1%)
Pattern: Green Woolen Bag (1: 0.0%)
Gleaming Claymore of the Wolf (1: 0.0%)

Edit: Finally got him after over 3100 casts......

Comment by Thottbot

11 hours and the damn fish still hasn't dropped. WTF is wrong with this game?

Comment by Thottbot

I actually caught this in the pond outside of where mages port you in. I had gone there specifically to catch Old Ironjaw, and caught it within 25 or so casts.

Now for the hard part... Getting into orgimmar to catch that rare fish... *sigh

Comment by Thottbot

JUST GOT AFTER 200 CASTS, TOOK 2 HOURS AND GOT MY FISHING SKILL TO 133 XD!

Comment by Thottbot

Best way for a horde to catch him?

Comment by Thottbot

Troll Hunter: been in Ironforge for 3 days with a total fishing log of 32 hours and over 3500 casts.

edit:4000
edit:4500

FINALLY CAUGHT @: 4964 casts. that's a thottbot record.

I hate you blizzard.

Comment by Thottbot

it sucks tring to catch him. unfortunetly it dosnt bite :D lol

Comment by Thottbot

all my gear is broken (i'm horde) but i made it to the cavern and once there 2 70's and a 52 (all alliance) guarded me from the other alliance with my using a lot of /cower and /cry

250 casts and from the looks of it i'm gonna be there a while

Comment by Thottbot

Just caught it after about 30 casts.... was funny because 2 guildies had already been trying about 400 casts with no luck and they were standing next to me as I caught it.

Now if only I had this sort of luck on baron rivendares mount i'd be happy... 100s of kills with no drop.

Comment by Thottbot

70 BE pally in IF fishing and this ^&*! of a druid kept killing her despite our best efforts to persuade him to stop it. Now the horde will kill us in Orgrimmar for it :(

Comment by Thottbot

*sigh*

this thing wont drop.

being a 707 tauren hunter in ironforge allience continuously kill me

i can barely get a single cast off and from what i do i get nothing good -.-

Comment by Thottbot

Wow thats wierd...i got it first cast..HATE ME muahahaha.

Comment by Thottbot

Just some stats for comparison. I'm Alliance (Night Elf), with a fishing skill of 395 (with my fishing pole). After several hours of fishing the forlorn caverns I decided to switch to the mystic ward.

Not sure if I was lucky or if the change in location was the cause, but I would recommend going to the Mystic Ward first.

OLD IRONJAW
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Location: The Forlorn Cavern
674 - Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
223 - Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
192 - Raw Brilliant Smallfish
6 - Lesser Healing potion
3 - Lesser Mana Potion
2 - 17 Pound Catfish
1 - 19 Pound Catfish
0 - Old Ironjaw
TOTAL: 1,101

Location: The Mystic Ward
62 - Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
18 - Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
16 - Raw Brilliant Smallfish
1 - Old Ironjaw
TOTAL: 97

GRAND TOTAL Catches: 1,198

Time Frame ( Date: October 22, 2008 )
------------------------------------------
12:42am - 7:00am - Started
7:00am - 7:23am - Mystic Ward
7:23am - 7:28am - Disconnected
7:28am - 7:48am - Mystic Ward
TOTAL: 7hr 1m / 421m

~Nyyght, The Boomkin. :3

Comment by Thottbot

i know how you guys feel who got over 3k casts but no ironjaw i've been fishing from 12 to 23 and no ironjaw and about 3k casts aswell, must be pure bad luck.. and the mystic ward totally doesnt help :/

Aziq, lvl 70 lock on Kazzak, worst luck player

-i hate you blizz

Comment by Thottbot

I got this, as a Horde, by hiding behing a pillar and fishing in the lava. Took 2-3 hours and gave me the Old Ironjaw achievement. Now for the easy bit, fishing for the equivalent in Orgrimmar : )

http://johan.saunablog.fi/media/1444/20081025-WoWScrnShot_102408_235107-blurred.jpg

Comment by Thottbot

i forgot to mention its even impossible to find his dump, as i didnt catch a single ironjaw in the 3000 casts

Comment by Thottbot

Caught him in about 40mins :) thought itd take longer, i guess i was just lucky, im ally not sure i wanna try for crafty yet lol with the new level 75 guards dont have a way to sneak by. maybe just run like hell lol

Comment by Thottbot

What is the Fishing lvl required to fish in Iron Forge?

Comment by Thottbot

Over 3000 fish caught in IF. No Ironjaw. I give up.

Comment by mumuzhizhi

after about 800 times
finally i get this
04:51:49 13/9/2021
from TBCC，China servers。

Comment by Drosera

I can confirm Old Ironjaw is fishable currently in TBC classic, did it on my tauren in the back of the cave in Ironforge. Took 2.5 hours. May you be luckier than I.

Comment by Amoris

It took me 1106 catches, don't forget to accept the popup window! :)
Wish you all good luck with it, especially for the fellow hordies trying to hide in the cove :P

Comment by Snasamannen

Caught it just now after 246 catches

Comment by caffo666

Total casts: 1817

Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper x1072
Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish x382
Raw Brilliant Smallfish x330
17 & 19 Pound Catfish x18
Lesser Mana Potion x7
Lesser Healing Potion x4
Blue leaher bag x1
Green recipe x2
Old Ironjaw x1

Good luck to your long day(s) of fishing.

Comment by Sunash

Just farmed on 2 characters in TBC Classic as Horde from Forlorn Cavern, both had significantly lower drop rates than posted. Toon 1 took 1709 casts (0.058% drop rate) and Toon 2 took 2112 casts (0.047% drop chance).

Comment by Thrage20

460 Casts for mine, No lures used.

Comment by saschavykos

For anyone coming to look at this in 2022 for the release of WOTLK Classic, the loot pop up to confirm it will BOP, is still there.

Do not do what I did and recast before accepting because you will lose the fish. /cry

My first drop came in at about 250 fish caught. Second one was about the same so not sure if the drop rate has changed or anything like that.

Comment by Oraid

Had leveled 1-75 at the pond in IF. Decided to leave and fish elsewhere so I could also get new mats for cooking. Once my cooking was maxed out, I went back to IF to just level the rest of my fishing there so I could get a chance at Old Ironjaw. Caught him on my 4th cast XD.

Comment by McHam

First time (during TBC classic) catching was after 109 casts. Second time (during WotLK prepatch), 2446 casts.

Comment by Jamsham

1500+ casts

finally loot one. in autopilot mode and didn't accept the this item will bind itself to you and recast fishing.

so 1500+ casts and i only got a pile of self pity

Comment by Varoww

This is the first time I felt lucky in wow, found Ironjaw with my 74th cast after getting out of a BG

Comment by Cobraboy

Just got after farming for about 30 mins. Am I lucky?

Comment by Tenatious

Currently up to 1250 casts and no success :(

Edit - Took me 2414 casts

Comment by will0ux

1448 casts. accidentally recast before clicking the confirmation box. time for another 1000 casts.

Update: 1761 casts total to get (and actually loot!) old ironjaw.
1039 Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
384 Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
317 Raw Brilliant Smallfish
6 Lesser Healing Potion
4 17 Pound Catfish
3 Lesser Mana Potion
3 Bloated Mud Snapper
2* Old Ironjaw
1 19 Pound Catfish
1 Heavy Shortbow
1 Journeyman's Vest

*still hitting myself for letting the first one go

Comment by FREELOOP

Have been in the enemy city for forever now, been ganked 4 times, around 2500 casts now, still no sign of old ironjaw. Found the one ring though.

I don't keep count of all the thingy that I fished because I don't have nearly enough inventory room for this. I thought I did. But I fished a total of 619 catfish so far.

It's very troublesome to get in here, so I ain't getting out until that basturd shows up.

Edit:
After about 3200 casts he finally showed up. However I cast again before I accept the pop up window! My heart literally stopped after realizing what I just did. Be on your toes guys who want to catch him, it's very easy to ingore the pop up window and cast again if you're just mindlessly fishing while doing other things.

Again, I ain't leaving this place until I catch him!

Edit:
Got him! Shortly after that, about 200 casts later, I caught another Ironjaw. Yes I paid attention this time. I guess you lose some you get some right? Believe in the RNG. Now my Old Crafty has companion. I'm so happy:)

Comment by Xertqt

Got Old Ironjaw after 1170 casts.

raw longjaw mud snapper x685
raw bristle whisker catfish x272
raw brilliant smallfish x196
lesser healing potion x5
lesser mana potion x2
17 pound catfish x6
19 pound catfish x2
willow belt of the eagle x1
old ironjaw x1

Comment by Blueicelleta

I fished up the Old Ironjaw yesterday. Let me point out I was level 80 and my fishing was maxed and I used a Bright Baubles lure (100), making my skill 550. It took me 194 casts to catch Old Ironjaw. As Horde, there is NO WAY to sneak into IronForge. What I did was just run in the main gate and ran in the direction of where I thought The Forlorn Cavern was. I went right and should have gone left. LOL As running you WILL get attacked so be prepared to die several times. My repair bill was 15 gold! Once you die just keep running back, rez, then run as far as you can till you die again. Continue doing this till you get to The Forlorn Cavern. Once there I ran to the very back center of the pond and fished without any more dying. I would advise when going in through the main gate, go to the left. Cross the little bridge then left again till you get to The Forlorn Cavern. A lot shorter distance than the way I went and probably less deaths.

Comment by slappylives

Took 2856 catches in Forlorn Cavern. Eranikus server.

Comment by Cyprus69

Got mine tonight: 11:58pm 07/25/2023 Bloodsail Buccaneers - Deadstarr 57 Hunter
Fishing: 300+125 using Aquadynamic Fish Attractor and Nat's Lucky Fishing Pole.

1565 Cast
Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper x941
Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish x319
Raw Brilliant Smallfish x284
Lesser Healing Potion x2
Lesser Mana Potion x5
17 Pound Catfish x6
19 Pound Catfish x5
Bloated Mud Snapper x5
Seer's Boots x1
Old Ironjaw x1

Comment by nickdead

500 cast today with 450+135 skill

294- 58.8% Logjaw mud Snapper
113- 22,6 % Bristle Whisker Carfish
86 - 17,2% Brilliant Smallfish
then 1 - 0,2 % of each: 17 pound catfish, Lesser healiung potion, Bloated Mud Snapper, 19 pound Catfish, Lesser Mana potion and See's Boots

No Old Ironjaw today

Comment by justlikethatqt

I got him on cast ~180 and stupidly cast again before i could loot because i was rushing... now i am on cast 3180 and still no sign of him! I've learned my lesson.

A good tip is to get the addon fishing buddy, it allows you to fish by double click instead of using the fishing spell. it also does not let you double click cast if the loot window is open!

wish me luck, its getting quite dreary in this cavern

caught him after 3,917 casts! submitting the screenshot of my fishing buddy log

Comment by Sefriel

Wowhead counter says there was 110 fishes per 43 498 catches, 1 fish per 395 casts, something like 0,25% drop rate. But thats average. Before I got that fish I fished:
678x Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper - 60% drop rate;
263x Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish - 22% drop rate;
198x Raw Brilliant Smallfish - 17% drop rate;
4x 17 Pound Catfish - 0,3% drop rate;
3x 19 Pound Catfish - 0,15% drop rate;
1x Lesser Healing Potion - 0,19% drop rate;
1x Bloated Mud Snapper - 0,05% drop rate;
1x The 1 Ring - 0,01% drop rate;
1x Old Ironjaw - 0,25% drop rate.
Total: 1150 casts in 4,5h. Six times I fished something with less drop chance than fish I wanted.
What can I say - good luck and be patient. And when you get that fish remember - now it's time for Old Crafty with average 1 catch per 1020 casts.

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Old Ironjaw

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"The legendary uncatchable fish of Ironforge. Just holding this scaly old monster makes you feel tough."

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