Quick Facts

Series

1.	Push Them Out
2.	The Battle for Gilneas City
3.	The Hunt For Sylvanas
4.	Vengeance or Survival
5.	Slowing the Inevitable
6.	Knee-Deep
7.	Laid to Rest
8.	Patriarch's Blessing
9.	Keel Harbor
10.	They Have Allies, But So Do We

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Comment by deathtyriel

this quest bugs now and then... only thing you can do is to wait on blizzard fixes the quest

Comment by Adverse

Seems to be bugged right now on the US PvE realm.

Comment by Happyfisherman

Although not necessary, don't forget to use the Rapier, it makes it a tad easier and faster.

Comment by dakoth

What exactly is supposed to happen after you zone in? I keep crashing so I'm not sure if I'm missing it or what, but when I am inside there's just a couple of worgen running back and forth between the prison entrance (where you zone in) and the bridge.

Comment by 295117

This is one of the most badly designed quests in the game at the moment. When got in surrounded by elite abominations with no means of escaping them. The catapults around are no help as die almost instantly to them. Using the rapier was no help either. No npcs to talk to or give an idea of what really to do in the quest.

This needs significant work before its ready for general release

Comment by bomaya

I had to run all the way back to the bridge for the quest to start properly. Otherwise I was running through the Forsaken army all on my own!

Comment by Faelandrel

It's bugged right now on Sisters of Elune, US. /sigh

Comment by 619617

This quest is not bugged, it is like the Death Knight event. You have to wait. It worked just fine for me on three toons.

Comment by Melesmelda

Just in case you didn't read the quest text carefully enough, you have to speak to the man who yells your name after you accept the quest. Don't be like me and follow WoW's built-in QuestHelper to the heart of Gilneas only to stand around awkwardly for 5 minutes waiting for something to happen.

Comment by 721969

The quest isn't bugged. Once someone starts the quest, via talking to the NPC at the bridge, anyone that is in that phase of questing will not be able to start the quest till the previous person finishes it. Or you can talk to the same NPC on the bridge and select join the current fight and you will be teleported to the current group that is running the quest.

Comment by 470308

WoWMLV is absolutly correct, just talk to NPC (Kennan?) near bridge to start after quest is selected.

Comment by 539061

I did the quest, and upon reciving the reward everything locked, cant accept the reward and neither can two more ppl not in grp doing it at the same time, made a ticket.

Comment by 711530

I don't know how to end this quest, it's happened a lot on m server from what I've heard in Trade and General chats. For some reason, after the scene where Liam dies, the question mark appears ont he map, but there are no npcs with it, and the the NPCs involved in the scene and battle just freeze where the fight finished until they disappear and Sylvanas respawns (along with all of the previous mobs)

Comment by redwulf2008

Correct. Two players (myself on a rogue and another on a priest, not grouped) did the quest at the same time and after Slyvanas does her pushback and "kills" Liam it becomes bugged (as of today, Tuesday, 12/14/10, prior to maitenence).

We lost the buff to restore health when we got to Slyvanas, but, luckily, it was impossible to get threat.
Liam doesn't die, he just falls to the ground
Lorna doesn't spawn in the inn to turn in the quest

After Slyvanas respawned we logged out and back and both were able to continue with the chain. This should be something fixed in the morning as so many people are reporting the issue.

Comment by copyrightsux

I only used the provided to heal the groups, after the fight the Innkeeper Lorna Crowley was dead, and so the rest of the Npc's at the Inn. But that's not a bug, and if you look under the fight, a whole legion of hustile mobs come out from the Inn.

Just wait for Lorna Crowley to respawn <(^.^)>

Comment by 718609

Lots of people really need to read quests, it would save a lot of time and less mucking around. If you can't find Krennan to talk to do /Target Krennan. You will be able to see him standing near the large pack of humans near the bridge. Talk to him and start the event.

After completing the quest, and Lorna wasn't in the Inn. It was just a matter of being patient because she respawned after a good few minutes.

Comment by 743203

It's not bugged you just need to run back where you took the quest after inspirated the humans and talk to the human and all will start

Comment by 275927

Liam's speech before the battle is roughly based on Winston Churchill's famous "We Will Fight Them On The Beaches" speech:

I have, myself, full confidence that if all do their duty, if nothing is neglected, and if the best arrangements are made, as they are being made, we shall prove ourselves once again able to defend our Island home, to ride out the storm of war, and to outlive the menace of tyranny, if necessary for years, if necessary alone.

At any rate, that is what we are going to try to do. That is the resolve of His Majesty's Government-every man of them. That is the will of Parliament and the nation.

The British Empire and the French Republic, linked together in their cause and in their need, will defend to the death their native soil, aiding each other like good comrades to the utmost of their strength.

Even though large tracts of Europe and many old and famous States have fallen or may fall into the grip of the Gestapo and all the odious apparatus of Nazi rule, we shall not flag or fail.

We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in France,
we shall fight on the seas and oceans,
we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be,
we shall fight on the beaches,
we shall fight on the landing grounds,
we shall fight in the fields and in the streets,
we shall fight in the hills;
we shall never surrender, and even if, which I do not for a moment believe, this Island or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our Empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British Fleet, would carry on the struggle, until, in God's good time, the New World, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the old.

Comment by 748556

I didn't have any problems with this quest.

It was actually very fun for me. Most people are always complaining they just want to get out of Gilneas, but I love the quests there, and I honestly get a little bit disappointed when I'm finished with the starting experience.

People who take the time to enjoy the quests generally have a better time than most.

Comment by Totergott

The quest is working fine from what I've done so far. I've done this 3 times with my rogue, druid, and warrior. It was a tad glitchy at big undead "boss", but it still works fine. I'm in the PvE realm Dalaran.

Comment by Daisieheart

i have had problems with the buff disapearing but the problem i have every time i do this quest is once Liam dies and it says to find Lorna in the inn she isnt there and sometimes it only takes a few mins but other times i get bored and log.

Comment by Nered

I've always hated this quest, because on all of the worgens i've done it on, when i get to Sylvanas, the buff u get from being near a leader of the battle goes away, thus i am no longer dealing OP dmg for my lvl, and I am no longer being healed every .5 of a sec, so when i do an aoe like Thunderclap (did this on my warrior like 3 mins ago), the undead all agro, then beat me to a pulp.

Also, why is this quest listed as Night Elf and Worgen races? its only Worgen, right? as no night elves can get into Gilneas.

Comment by oakarm

I found the following bug/glitch:

When I completed the quest, I saw the question mark on my minimap, but the turn-in NPC was nowhere to be found/seen.

Solution: logged out and logged back in.

I spoke to the correct person to initiate the quest.
I followed Liam through the town until we got to the town square and fought Sylvanas.
Sylvanas retreated and I saw the message on my screen indicated that the quest was complete.
I saw the question mark on my mini map showing where to turn in the quest (inside the building where the action ends), but no NPC.

on a side note: the entire quest line is a rail-ride. Very weak design in my opinion. For, among other reasons, when even a single quest is bugged or glitchy, you cannot progress.

Comment by Icarium

Damn it! It's bugged.
Talk with the guy and get teleported to the city.... gates in front of Boss won't stay open!
Fix please!

Comment by 766376

To ALL of the uppity players who think this quest is not bugged and all you have to do is read the quest, Im here to say that it is ABSOLUTELY bugged. Quest was down for an entire day on my server. You'll sit there waiting for quest to start (even after speaking to the purple dude) and nothing will happen.

GM confirmed that its was bugged and they were actively working on it. If nothings happening for you, give it up and switch toons for a while.

Comment by 169714

By Teufeltusken on 12/09/2010 (Patch 4.0.3)
Y'know, that annoys me. Indeed, a few times in the Worgen starting quests you are directed to speak to someone, but there is no "!" over the head of the target. Poor design, IMHO.

he dosn't have a ! or a ?, because he's not the questgiver or questender...

as many people have stated, read the quest, it's not rocket science. If you absolutely have to have a huge blatent marker over every single one of your objectives to hold your hand along the oh so difficult journey known as "reading".. well, y'need to learn to think for yourself... IMHO.

Comment by 571771

Ok I went AFK during this quest, got killed, and logged out. I logged on later, and everything was done, but I never got the quest complete. I had to run around and die many more times, swim, backtrack, and finally came to the entrance again. No one was there. So I abandoned the quest... Bad move lol.... Not sure what to do now.

Comment by 698751

you dont think this is bugged? every time i do this quest i cant finish it, i get to sylvanas and she runs away, liam is dead and quest isnt finished? i kept on going ALL DAY doing this quest and it didnt work! im on realm Deathwing.

Comment by 790015

This quest is bugged beyond belief, I don't care what some of you say. The beginning, IS fixed. After speaking to the original quest giver, you talk to the scientist dude to the right of the bridge (read above for exact location) and follow the soldier dudes into the city. Good luck keeping up with them after you reach the first cannons. Eventually you can find your way into the Square where Sylvanas is, but everything froze up for me after that. My army disappeared, Liam and his father were still standing there but NOTHING was happening. I sat and watched Sylvanas twitch for awhile until I finally logged. When I came back, she was gone and THEN the question mark on my mini map showed up where Lorna was. After speaking to her, I followed Tobias to Cathedral Square THREE times (lost him twice). Made it back to Lorna again but she was frozen. C'MON Blizzard. Fix this crap! I'm getting ready to ride the bat now but if it gliches again, I'm done with Worgen for GOOD.

Comment by Silvertusk

Actually, this quest and the ensuing ones are exceptionally bugged - after completing the battle oftentimes Lorna will simply not show up in her right spot, oftentimes getting bugged on her run up the street. This is a travesty of programming.

Comment by 537756

What the hell is up with this quest? I've been trying it for two day now and still can't proceed. The yellow question marks appears after the final 'battle' but the NPC is nowhere to be seen.

How are you supposed to continue? I've tried logging out and logging back in, nothing. I must've tried it at least 30 times now, and still the same bloody thing.

Comment by notbear

After i killed that big abom with the catapult crowley just runs back and forth doing nothing... I cant continue the worgen quests and ive already logged out. (even overnight)

Comment by Pypode

While reading notes after battle everyone else disappeared. So I died. Then came back in a safe place and ran to inn using the alleyway beside the canal. Door is open on canal side of building.

Comment by 443539

quest is bugged on stormrage non-pvp server. you get the quest, then you try to talk to the krennan guy, but the only thing he says is: "our men are regrouping. they will be ready for battle in mere minutes." with no option to start the quest available.

i've been sitting there for minutes, tried logging off then back on, also tried to abandon the quest and get it again, but nothing seems to work. i'm contacting a gm about this, but the queue is soooo long!

Comment by 803729

This quest is completely broken. I read the quest, talked to the right people and all I get is the same regrouping message as the other guy. I can't join whatever group is doing the quest currently. I went into the city and the friendly NPCs are just running in circles. I tried to run to the end to the quest turn in and there are just a ton of mobs that wreck me.
I can't leave the area until this stupid quest is done, the least they could do is insure it works. I liked the rest of the starting area, but this has completely ruined worgen for me.

Comment by 803748

this quest is a dead duck...smells so bad it should have been cremated a long time ago...i'm on arathor server and it wont start....just says exactly the same as quoted here several times already ....poor effort blizzard

Comment by 339592

I've got quick answer from GM:
Need to wait hotfix. It will be tomorrow... (March 16)

Comment by 804021

Quest is definitely still bugged. It doesn´t even help talking to the guy at the bridge. Been waiting now over an hour for the battle to start. Does anybody have an idea how to continue leveling without this quest in the chain?

Comment by 355973

Some of you have said all it takes to start is talking to Krennan, but sometimes that's not enough. I accepted the quest, then went and talked to him, he said the troops were regrouping and would be ready in mere minutes... 25 mins later he was still saying the same thing. I abandoned the quest and restarted, same thing. I tried several times in and out of shapeshift (leveling a druid), in human form and worgen, still nothing. So this quest is officially broken on Bladefist US.

Comment by 804021

Now it worked for me! You just have to run behind and keep on healing your forces. Hope this´ll work for you as well.

Comment by Biffsterr

The quest does appear to have a bug in it. Rather than just complain on Wowhead, though, I put in a ticket with Blizzard (they said they were investigating it). But, I also posted the problem on the bug report forum. Several hours later, I logged back on to my level 12 worgen toon, accepted the quest again (I abandoned the quest earlier and parked the toon right in front of the quest giver) and ran it. Magically, I was able to complete the quest successfully.

The issue appears to be with Genn Greymane. You get to a point where there's a gate to the left and a right turn will take you to Sylvanas. You'll notice that if the quest is bugged, Genn doesn't come through the gate with his mob of Gilneans. If you see him coming through the gate, as he did this last time, then the quest will complete successfully.

Whether my pointing it out to Bliz (I noted Genn in the comment on the forum) had anything to do with the quest suddenly working or not isn't necessarily the issue. Another thing that happened between my last unsuccessful attempt and the successful attempt was that Bliz did server restarts so that may have "fixed" the glitz. If that's the case, it's not a bug per se. It's more along the lines of something getting hung up.

update
I rolled another worgen and the glitch reared its ugly head again. This time, however, I redid the entire quest and watched for anything unusual during the final battle. While using the AoE that rallies the troops, on the mob that was around the villainess boss, I noticed that her health was around half way before I used the AoE and when I used it, she suddenly went back up to 100%. Ah hah!. So, I just didn't use it any more and the quest completed without further trouble. In order to avoid the glitch, don't use the AoE at all during the final battle.

Comment by 206093

This quest is bugged, but sometimes not impossibly so... I got stuck on the part where Genn is fighting Sylvanas. Suddenly, Genn and the other NPCs disappeared and I'm stuck in the courtyard looking at Sylvanas and her banshees all alone. I logged out, abandoned quest and logged out again and eventually went all the way back to Lorna to get the quest again. Then the quest went off without a hitch.

Annoying.

Comment by 811810

i found that just following the guy on the horse was enough to get me to the end bit. then dont follow him though the gate just hang around and wait till youre guys finish the two leaders that are there then when the undead lass on horse back is about 1/3rd her life left its should go into story mode and complete

Comment by 794263

Once you find the guy who triggers the start of the event this quest is as easy as anything. I'm now certain that you don't really need to use the rapier during the quest to finish it, since several people have posted that they didn't even bother, but I thought it was fun to see all the green floating numbers. I also put a few blows in when the group I decided to follow through the battle (Liam's group btw, easiest to follow since the horse was easily recognized even in a large group) were fighting a boss, but I also am playing a character with range ability and I got bored just watching them all fight. Throwing a few blows helps this go a bit faster, by now your character should do more damage in one hit than the battle group around most monsters. However smaller monsters would generally die before I could even target them so just sit back and watch those.

Comment by Skugge

Quest might be bugged still. For me it bugged out at Sylvanas, so I put in a GM ticket, and they bypassed it for me.

Comment by gude

This quest remains bugged, the battle finish, all npcs gonne, Sylvannas apears and the quest dont turn on

Comment by 750524

i just went through this for the second time - used a catapult which seemed to knock about three minutes off the time to kill the big bad guy - right to the square -- i just kept using the rapier to 'inspire' the good guys - after dying six times trying to get to the inn, this last time, as soon as the good guys disappeared, i went around back/canal side to the inn - crowley was there - greyed out ? over her head -

ALL SHE SAYS is this is not over - and the quest cannot be completed - who here is saying they actually turned in the quest to her ?

seems bugged as hell to me .... so now i can't continue with the worgen character .... pretty damn sucky ...

if you ACTUALLY COMPLETED the quest, tell us how .....

Comment by 771093

Quest chain seems fine as of patch tonight. Been trying for 3 days, but dropped and retook quest tonight and it worked like a dream (well, like it should I guess ;p)

Comment by 734042

This quest wasn't bugged for me (fixed in 4.1?), but it was annoying. I think that either the battle should be a scripted event or there should be something clearly defined for the player to do. It's confusing. Where am I supposed to be going? Am I supposed to be attacking the mobs, or just waving my rapier about? How can a rapier be a targetted AOE? Who am I supposed to be targetting with it? (The answers are, I think, that you should follow Liam around as best you can, you needn't do anything at all, but you can use the rapier and/or attack the mobs if it makes you feel happy, and the rapier is an AOE heal which you should target at your allies. At two points there are siege weapons for you to use, although whether this actually effects the outcome I'm not sure.)

Comment by 828942

in this quest, The Battle for Gilneas City, when Liam finishes his speech, people start shouting and the battle starts.

I would like to ask if theres a way to get that battle shout's sound script?

Comment by 808409

Now this quest is too damn long! Make sure to speak to the guy before running to the heart of Gilneas as quest helper shows ... You need to speak to the man in order to start the quest and then just follow the crowd for about 10 mins :$ meh!

Comment by Keakee

What's the name of the abomination you have to fight? I forget it, and just want to know out of curiosity.

Comment by 718691

Gorerot :)

Comment by dresdor

If you are still having problems with this, submit a petition asking for them to complete the quest for you, given the bugs in the quests, GMs have been authorized to complete certain worgen intro quests (this is directly from a GM that contacted me in game).

The issue seems to be tied to Lorna's father dying in the Gorerot fight. Every time he dies (i.e. you take to long to kill the big guy) she doesn't spawn in the inn.

To complete the quest, just follow Prince Liam around. A lot of it is killing everything in your way. The only parts you should pay attention to is killing the abominations with the cannon (they will say something like "This is a gift from the people of (whatever town you saved from being enslaved miners)" and its just plain fun, and the Gorerot fight (to prevent the bug). You should also get a few hits in on Sylvannas, as you aren't going to be able to punch her in the face again until much later (and if you can get a group to fight her).

Comment by Rothar

I just ran this twice after it bugged out on me the first time at Sylvanus.

2nd time WORKED LIKE A CHARM - here's what I did:

1. Man the cannon to kill the abominations in the street, then use the catapult (which you can roll around for a clear shot) to destroy the huge abomination. Other than that, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO ANY FIGHTING

2. Use the rapier every time it's cooled down, it increases the defender's health regeneration - KEEPING AS MANY ALIVE IS KEY

3. When you get to Sylvanus, let the defenders do the fighting - USE THE RAPIER TO KEEP THEM ALIVE

The Liam dies, fights over, quest turn-in is in the inn behind where Sylvanus was - WIN!

Comment by 838035

PRE-QUEST READ I tried this once spamming Rapier of the Gilnean Patriots and when we got to the end, everyone and everything just disappeared, i had to abandon the quest and start at that step again, time wasting bug. after i was able to start the quest again easiest way i found to do this is i just spammed Rapier of the Gilnean Patriots again every time it was up from CD, if you spam Rapier of the Gilnean Patriots and hit it on the bigger groups of warriors then you have a much better chance on surviving as Rapier of the Gilnean Patriots is a heal ability and you want to keep as many as of the warriors alive as you can then presto end battle, the banshee queen gets away and quest is completed.

Comment by Pypode

Quest is fixed. It's so much fun. Stay with the army. Don't start any fights. Remember to bolster the troops when fighting bosses. At Rotgut you can man a catapult, which has limited health. I thought it was my health failing. When it dies, just jump on another one. I was running with other Worgans eventually, doesn't matter if you lose the main army, stay with a fighting group and keep going. Fun!

Comment by cephadex

I’m really sorry for the long post.

As of June 2011 (half a year since Cataclysm was released), this quest is still bugged on Chamber of Aspects EU (at least it was for me). Yes, I realize at times one experiences issues owing to their own idiocy, but this time I really think there’s a bug. Took me three times doing this quest to get it to work. When I did the quest, I followed the Gilnean militia as indicated, used the item to heal the group, used the catapults when necessary, even raid marked the leading NPCs to make sure I’m not randomly losing them. Went fine till the battle at Sylvanas, which started out fine but then at one point, almost the entire Gilean militia simply vanished and the forsaken army also vanished, and all who remained were Lady Sylvanas flanked by her banshees. There were two worgen left from my militia who were uselessly batting at one of the banshees who was not attacking back, no one taking any damage, and a bunch of the human gilnean militia remained all stacked on top of one another and not moving. The quest did not show ‘failed’ for me. I waited for about 10 minutes and nothing happened. Then I went on here to read the comments left by others about the bug. I dropped the quest and ported out, ran all the way back – and here’s something else weird – almost (but not all) the NPCs were gone from the villages, both good and bad guys, no mobs, nothing but a few of the class trainers. Well, before I even picked up the quest again, the entire Gilnean militia was out there waiting outside the city gates (the first time I did the quest, the militia only appeared after I picked up the quest).

Well, I picked it up and went in again, got the same bug the second time. Opened a ticket to speak with a GM, and the wait time was “one day, one hour.” (Incidentally: it is now over one day, one hour later since then and now the wait time is “ten hours”). I went in a third time, maybe it was because the third time I managed to die during the battle, or not, no idea, but that time the quest ended normally and I was able to hand it in.

All and all, I’m not trying to whine or @#$%^, but I’m kind of surprised at the worgen quests. Maybe this is because I’m an idiot or something, but I’ve been playing WoW since the original beta for the game and some of these quests really had me going ‘wtf, Blizzard?’ I can see the rationale behind having this restricted starting area where you can’t leave the place and have to follow exactly the questline they want you to follow and only be able to go to certain areas when you’ve completed such-and-such things, but I personally find it pretty annoying, and it gets problematic when a quest cannot be completed due to being bugged and the wait time for a GM is over a day, and you can't proceed beyond that point for over a day as you have to do that exact quest chain (not to mention that when what appeared to be a bug in the quest leading to there not being NPCs elsewhere – unless that was caused by something different – and it didn’t seem to be a horde invasion or anything – then that would make others unable to complete their quests and proceed beyond their point as well due to mobs being entirely missing). The quest that followed after that was also kind of wtf as the NPC spawned and took off almost instantaneously and then ran off very fast, it was like nothing I’d seen in WoW before that I can remember.

I also found there were very few repair/sell-to NPCs around in the worgen area compared with my previous experience in WoW, and I had a really hard time locating the priest trainer (/target didn’t work as she was on the second story of a building and when I did /target nothing showed up, and it was not possible as far as I know to go back to the earlier village where there was another trainer).

I imagine if I were just starting out with WoW and was level 12, I would be even more confused about all this.

Comment by CantThinkOfOne

I tried this quest one time and I got separated from the rest of the group at the abomination part. I heard Gorerot's yell and ran over there. When I got there, Liam was dead and Lord Crowley died soon after. I figured they'd respawn, but they never did.

Also, near the end of the Gorerot battle, the catapults glitched up and said that "Another action is in progress" when I tried to fire. Greymane and everyone else managed to finish him off, though.

We finally wound up at Sylvannas with just Greymane and a dozen or so Gilneans left. Sylvannas wasn't doing anything and when I tried to attack her, it said I couldn't attack that target. She was slowly losing health, though. I died three times because none of the NPCs that gave the health buff were alive.

Eventually, everyone just suddenly despawned. Gone. Then Sylvannas and the banshees reappeared (and didn't attack me, thank God!). I managed to run back to where the instance began and heard Liam shout his speech. I joined someone else doing this quest and beat it no problem.

So...Word of advice: stay with the group.

Comment by guldarheel

Well since no one else has put any information of any real value except to state the ridiculously obvious in an attempt to make you feel stupid instead of offering any real help, here's what you do.
1 - Once you pick up the quest from Lorna Crowley, proceed up the road towards the bridge where all the people are gathered and speak to Krennan Arannas, who is on the right side of the road immediately before the bridge.
2 - Prince Liam Greymane will do his Winston Churchill impression before leading the charge into the Merchant District. The Gilneans will attack the Forsaken here before proceeding towards the military district.
3 - Wait until the cannons have been brought in to the bottom of the stairs and "mount" the cannon, using it to shoot all of the abominations you can see, even into the distance to the left.
4 - Go into the military district where worgen warriors are fighting and use the damaged Forsaken catapults against the Forsaken Elite Giant "Gorerot."
5 - I followed Prince Liam Greymane to the point where he vanishes. His father King Genn Greymane will appear, yelling "Sylvanas". He and Sylvanas will do battle until Prince Liam appears once more, only to be killed by Sylvanas. The quest ends more or less after this point.
6 - See Lorna Crowley inside the building behind the King to complete the quest.

Hope this helps.

Comment by 306129

I know 99% of the people here are talking about how bugged it is, and I'm also incensed myself that Blizz allowed so many bugs in what is otherwise a GOD-AWESOME QUEST.

There were so many things that they did right for this quest - the Liam's war cry, the battle progress, the music (night elf war theme ftw) and the shocking death of Liam Greymane, whom we've come to love through the starting experience.

I was lucky to do this w/o the bug (though I died once from over-zealousness in mowing down forsaken) and I must say that this is definitely one of the best quests ever. It is a high point in the worgen questing experience.

Comment by 860147

Used forever on this quest, first I did not knew I had to talk to the chemist to initiate, why not tell the prince? Had made more sense if he started the quest and you talked to the prince to start this.

Else Guldarheel made a very good walktrough, will just add that your main task is to keep track of the prince, if you lose him thing might go wrong, keep out of trouble and use the rapier on the group, you are the groups healer.

Comment by vortha

After you get the quest, talk to the chemist by the bridge, behind the wagen next to the bridge.
Follow the mob, healing with the rapier.
When the canons come out, hop on a canon to kill the abominations.
Follow the mob.
Hop on a catapult outside of the square and kill the monster. It might not die but will lose most of its health when the catapult explodes. Target and shoot. Monstor dies, follow the mob to kill Sylvanis. Sylvanis will disappear, Liam will die and the quest will be complete. Go inside the inn.

Comment by Janettie

Unfortunately, if you are a hunter, there are no decent rewards for you at all. Had the agility mace been an agility staff or polearm, this would not have been the case.

I personally took the cloak, simply because it was an armor upgrade over my white cloak.

Comment by 853477

This quest is definitely bugged! I've tried doing this quest 3 times on my worgen warrior and I die every time! I finally said screw it and just went ahead. Every time I got to Greymane Court (before fighting Sylvanas) the buff would disappear along with Liam. I couldn't get the buff back so I just started wailing on Sylvanas but of course the undead mobs started jumping on me and without the buff I eventually died before I could drain enough of Sylvanas' health :( It does this every time I play a worgen now, really aggravating!

Comment by Jaedaddy

This quest is roughly 15 minutes long!

Comment by 526192

I watched Lorna Crowley die at the Gorerot fight and was so confused. Reached the end and Lorna wasn't where she was supposed to be for the turnin... Sylvanas and her adds respawned long before she did.

Comment by 853847

The most annoying quest in the world. I'll never roll worgen ever again :/

Comment by 882652

Quest just this minute bugged out on me - just after gorerot, all the gilnean NPCs despawned, and all the foresaken re-spawned! Now I'm surrounded by foresaken, and the nearest hearth location is frikkin miles away. Bad, bad, bad.

Comment by 892920

Still bugged. Just had the entire thing done exactly as required, on my third pass as of 08/11/2011 with nary an addon in sight and again they all fade out just before the big finish. No forsaken or citizenry save for Lorna Crowley and two Worgens for a few minutes then "presto!" and Sylvanas reappears with her minions. Quest remains incomplete with Lorna Crowley so its once again "do not pass go" time. At least the bug has been consistent for me.

What's need here is a portal out of Gilneas altogether for those not wanting their gaming to feel like work. It was neat to see the first and second times but a third leading into a fourth? Not so much.

Comment by pipboy650

This sh*t is as derpy as it gets. I honestly feel suicidal at the moment! Not only do you have to wait for all the retarded NPCS with the same AI as a fotball hooligan to clear everything and YES i mean freaking EVERYTHING around you, but you also have to stand around hammering buttons for two or three minutes to kill Sylvanas.

Ok so the whole event probably takes somewhere between ten and fifteen minutes to finish which makes it a horrible and awfully delayed event even for "rare" items. And once you actually manage to get all this sh*t done the quest doesn't work. And judging from most of the comments it's been messed up ever since the beta.

It feels as if Alex Afrasiabi keeps on putting his middle finger right in my f*cking face over and over just because i decided to try out a few alliance races for a change. No wonder alliance players keep whining about blizzard favouring the horde faction.

I could turn the quest in after another 3 tries. Well worth waiting thoose 50 minutes for 1300 experience points and a cloak with 4 intellect!

Comment by 892779

If Lorna Crowley dies during the battle simply wait on the first floor of the Inn for her to respawn, which takes around 3-5 minutes at the conclusion the conversation following Sylvanus' departure.

Comment by CAshton123

This quest does have some kind of bug in it, I got all the way to Genn Greymane battling at the end and instead of it going onto the next part of the quest it faded all the Gilneans and left my druid standing surrounded by Sylavanas and a group of the undead, and it's not the first time it's happened wither. Damn annoying!

Comment by cryoflash

Bugged. While I was fighting Sylvanas (had almost downed her), everyone dispawned. Had to start all over again.

Comment by Mirrodin

I also encountered a bug that it looks like more like a failure in the quest, while i was fighting Gorerot, Lord Darius Crowley died, after i killed this big and ugly thing the npcs run away, disappeared and after 5 secs the entire place reset all undead mobs respawned instantly and i had hard time getting back to the bridge.
When i got back to the bridge i started the quest all over again.

Comment by 902537

this quest is buggy on me :/ we kill Gorerot and then everyone dissapres :/ whats going on where do I go from there its like my 5th time trying

Comment by Sagaku

I've had quite a lot of trouble with this quest...
The first part of the quest isn't that hard, talk to the person that calls out your name to start the battle, listen to Liam's speech and follow him inside, fight a few mobs (or just inspire your troops, they'll do the fighting for you.
Get in a catapult to defeat the large abomination with the insane health (not, you can also just attack him yourself, but it's a lot slower...

Then you end up at Sylvanas, that's when my quest first bugged, everything disappeared and I couldn't find my troops anymore, so I used my hearthstone and walked back.
I talked to the person again that shouted my name before and ended up in battle again. This time I could get passed Sylvanas and complete the quest, but the questgiver never showed up.
After waiting a couple of minutes she was finally at the place where she was supposed to be and I could complete the quest.

Comment by ddeadheadd

This quest can be a bit confusing to start, so when you accept the quest you have to speak with the Royal Chemist to the right in order to actually start it. Don't go running around trying to get to the quest area and don't sit waiting for the quest to start on its own.

Comment by stenova

I've done this quest a number of times without problem. But this last time I just can't, tried 3 times. Two of the times, everybody has died by the time we/I get to Sylvanas, and once everybody just disappeared by the time two of her three buddies were down. Gonna try again after next maintenance; if it won't work the character is so gone.

Comment by Aislinge

I must say, it is the most poorly thought out quest line (including Keel Harbour which is also bugging). It has ruined what should have been a great experience for my Son and the response has been 'oh yeah we know'.

No matter how many times you post on the forums or lodge a ticket, the GM's have nothing to say, because there's nothing they can do. It's all about the Dev's who clearly don't care.

A real shame.

Comment by ItsBrent

The start point of this quest appears to be inaccurate. The start point is useful to know if you have to repeat this quest (after err um failing it the first ... um several times), as I have. Using the City map displayed on this page the actual start point is in the upper right hand (North East) corner. Near where one of the ramps exiting the city is. I suspect this incorrect location was a result of using the correct coordinates but using the wrong coordinate system. The coordinate system in Gilneas the City is different than that in Gilneas the continent. The coordinate number pair you see when you mouse over the start point (!) is correct but the location displayed is for the city coordinate system. If you exit the city (your map changes to view of the entire continent) the coordinates would then place the start point where I mentioned. And this is where the quest giver is located.

Comment by driss

When did this, we attacked Syvlanas forever and she kept healing herself. Then the screen went to a loading image and I was back at the very beginning of the entire battle, like it all just reset. :|

Comment by 500430

Stay with the Prince to keep the healing buff and when you reach the final boss, stay away from the final boss and you get the quest complete. Once the Prince dies go into the inn and wait, she will re spawn and you can turn in the quest

Comment by Biffsterr

I've done this quest several times now. When the worgen were first on the scene, there was a glitch where the guy on the horse (I forget, Liam? Genn?) would enter the square for the final battle and he'd run towards the gate out of the city and disappear. We could never complete the quest then.

The glitch seemed to be fixed for quite a while and then, this morning, it happened again. At some point in the battle, I got the splash screen and then got sent back to the beginning. So, I did it one more time before reporting it. Again, the guy on horseback disappears and I'm like 'oh great, here we go again'.

I logged off, waited a few seconds and then logged back on. The battle was still in progress and I can't say for sure that this helped at all.

However, when I used that battle aoe, that you use during the fight to rally the troops, for the first time, the villainess on horseback was getting close to half health when I used it and then she magically healed to 100%. Ah hah! So I just stopped using it on anyone and her health again started to go down and the quest completed.

You don't have to do any damage to any of the NPCs yourself at all during the entire sequence. I used the aoe a few times early and used a cannon and a catapult. But to play it safe, try not using the aoe at all during the final battle.

Comment by 895302

I don't know why people, including the GM, doesn't think this quest is bugged. I STARTED each fight with the guy on the bridge, went through the motions killing everything in the city, and when I got to the final part the "boss" lady kept healing herself and then the event ended and I was teleported back to the bridge to start all over. The GM says it's on a timer but I say crap because you can't complete it.

Comment by 429358

I was fighting Sylvanus near the end of the quest and I kept on using Rapier of the Gilnean Patriots and that was healing the millita but every time Sylvanus was one fourth, give or take a little, of the way down, she would instantly go back to health. this happend about three or four times until i was teleported to the livery outpost and had to redo the quest. Any ideas on what happend?

Comment by guishir

Some notes I would add to everyone's helpful comments after doing this quest myself:

First thing I would say is put a raid marker on Prince Liam. I lost him several times and had to restart the quest. Make sure you keep with him up until Sylvanas, at which point STOP using the heal - or rather, make sure to only use it on the Gilneans far enough away from her. If she gets inside the buff circle, she will heal too, for very large amounts!

Also, during the Goregut encounter I had an issue with the catapults giving me an error message and refusing to fire. Quickly relogging fixed the issue, and the fight was still in progress so I was able to continue unhindered.

Lorna was there for me once the quest completed, but from what everyone has said she will respawn anyway if you wait for her inside the inn.

While it is a bit of a temperamental quest, it seems to me that most of the problems aren't exactly bugs but inherent problems with the AI. Either way, once I did manage to get through it, it was a very enjoyable experience!

Good luck to everyone.

Comment by 354616

OK ... so after all this time I think it is important to distill some of the reasonable information that has been posted along the way and give a summary of what to expect when rolling a Worgen and trying to get through this quest.

The short answer is YES, the quest is bugged (still, always, and probably forever)
The slightly longer answer is that there are a number of different things that can go wrong during the event, any of which can result in not being able to complete it.

Basically what it boils down to is, don't give up. If something goes wrong along the way head back to the beginning and either restart it (if the army and NPCs respawn on the bridge) or abandon the quest and pick it up again from scratch.

I have done this on 4 different toons now, and not once have I been able to complete it in a single pass ... before the flaming starts, I do know all the glitches that will wreck the event, but it's not actually possible to personally handle them all. Some of it relies on the NPCs doing the right thing, and they just don't always do it.

I really don't see any merit in detailing the various glitches, however some general tips should definately help.
1) Put a raid symbol on Liam and stay with him. If he stops, you stop ... if he moves you follow. If he disappears suddenly, wait a few minutes and then head back to the start.
2) Use the Sword buff on your troops, it will greatly increase the pace of the event. DO NOT use the Sword buff anywhere near the hostiles, it will apply to them. This is counterproductive, and in the case of Sylvanas will keep her at full health indefinately. The buff has a targetting circle, as long as no hostiles are in the circle let 'er fly.
3) Use the cannon on the aboms
4) Use the catapult on BIG UGLY (you knock off ~4k with each shot)

and most important, relax and smile ... it's a game :)

Comment by 932177

I've tried this quest 3x now and every time I get to the end it sends me back to the beginning.

Comment by Ozlem

Some handy hints to do this in one go when it's buggy / glitchy:

1. Put an icon on prince Liam or set focus on him, or do both. He is easy to see because he is the only one on a horse but it's nice to see where and when he stops. You want to stop when he stops, go when he goes. He runs back and forth a few times in the same area, that's not a glitch, that's just how he rolls.
2. Don't go DPS crazy, this is more of an 'observe history in the making' event. You'll aggro some mobs running past them but just stick on Liam like glue and he'll take care of those aggro mobs. If you do fight you can run the risk of losing Liam and the event does bug if Liam has run too far ahead of you. I only fire on the Gorerot fight. I never use the catapults I just auto fire and go and get a drink but use them if you want to (just saying it's not essential.) After Gorerot Liam will run around in a loop then go back to the Gorerot section and just sit there for what feels like forever.... he's just catching his breath he'll take off again, be patient.
3. RAPIER = This is what glitches the event most of the time because it looks as if it also gives Sylvanas the buff and she speed heals. Because of this I use it well before we reach Sylvanas and then I don't touch it at all after I leave Gorerot's area.
4. Just saying prince Liam will run into a gate and despawn. This is not a glitch (been reading comments on here it's a bug & it's not.)
5. SYLVANAS = What you need to do in this area is NOTHING. Once you enter Sylvanas area & prince Liam despawns, don't do a single thing, don't even go near her. Sit away from the action. I personally sit on the rat near the gate Liam despawns at. If you try and get involved, as in killing things, shooting Sylvanas, stand near the action or even use the rapier you will glitch the event and you will have to do this all over again.

(I've done this a few times now & when it doesn't bug you can get more involved but as it always seem to bug, especially right at the end, following the above advice will get you through in one go without having to worry if the event is buggy or not.)

*~*~* UPDATE 5.4.2 *~*~*
A hot fix has been implemented which should help everyone out. Blue post dated 10 Feb..

Quests
The Battle for Gilneas City: Reduced Sylvanas and Gorerot's hitpoints. Rapier of the Gilnean Patriots no longer heals enemies.

So hopefully this unbelievable 'OMG-WTH-@#$#' quest angst is a thing of the past, if not just follow steps 1-5 and you'll be right.
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

Comment by Silent1fd

Lol Sylvanas gets the heals from the rapier, I was like why is this fight taking so long, then i realized I was healing her, I guess I really am horde 4 life!

Comment by horsetuna

Still bugged. Got to Sylvanas. All alone. Some NPCS finally respawned but they just killed the lowbie forsaken and ignored Sylv.

Comment by 945625

i think i have a bug.....every time ive done this quest it restarts from the beggining like nothing happened it either happens when im in the fight with sylvia or when i click her. is there a time limit or soming plz help!

Comment by Ebyssius

You need to talk to Krennan Aranas to start The Battle for Gilneas City!(##RESPBREAK##)16##DELIM##asakawa##DELIM##

Comment by 941152

Quest is bugged and frustrating. I have repeated the battle now for four times and when I get sylvannas at some point during that skimish, the battle resets and you taken back to the bridge to start all over again. Absolutely insane!

Comment by 754159

Liam ran into the gate and despawned for me too. I simply turned around and walked back towards Sylvanas and it froze me for 20 seconds and completed the quest.

Comment by 434880

Having just wrestled with this chain, I thought I would share some tips on this part and some of the later parts too. Given that this quest is in a starting area, I'm offering these tips from more of a beginner POV:

The Battle for Gilneas City

After you accept this quest, as others have said, type /tar Krennan and look for the green dot on the mini-map, run over, right-click on him and click the chat bubble to get the event started.
Type /tar Liam and then set your focus (/focus if you don't have the key bound) That will keep Liam as a green dot on your mini-map, but you can also target other things.
Follow Liam around. Attacking the "Filler mobs" is pretty much optional, just use the Rapier item occasionally to mass heal your allies.
When you get to the part with the abominations, use the cannon to blow them up. Also watch where Liam is and be prepared to jump out of the cannon quickly (The big red arrow button on the vehicle toolbar) so you can chase after him
When you get to the part with the ugly monster mini-boss, jump in any of the vehicles in his immediate area and throw flaming rocks at him until he dies. Note: After the monster dies, if Liam runs in a very fast circle through the streets and back to where the monster was killed and then does nothing, you'll want to quickly log out and back in.
Then there's some shouting, you follow Liam and his father and Sylvanas appear. You want to kill the three Banshees ASAP and then attack Slyvanas. Remember to use the Rapier to heal your allies. If after you kill the Banshees Sylvanas' health suddenly resets to full for no reason, then quickly log out and back in. You may want to just do this anyway before engaging the banshees in the first place.
After the quest completes, if you don't see a yellow ? on your mini-map or you can't turn in the quest... again, quickly log out and back in.

The Hunt for Sylvanas

You'll want to do /tar Tobias and watch the mini-map to see where he goes, and just follow him.
When you get inside the building and he tells you to get in the water, you want to go to the curved railing on your right and jump over it.
Wait for the scripted scene to play out and once the quest completes you'll need to swim/run at the railing and keep jumping while running until you get out of the water, then you can jump over the rail and head left out of the building to return to where you started.

Knee Deep

Before you head down the tunnel, make sure to drag the torch to your action bar and spam that button while running madly, otherwise you'll get overwhelmed pretty quickly

Endgame

Yes you really do have to just wait around until Tobias says ready, then click the Hippogryph
Once you get to the gunship, start killing orcs and watch for Lorna to yell things
When she yells about ropes, click on either one of the two yellow circles on the ground (They're coils of rope)
Then kill things in the area of the "command room" (the little room down the short ramp) until she yells again and then follow her down the long ramp into the hold
Kill the big orc (If a big orc doesn't spawn, this is another 'Quickly log out and back in' situation
When she yells about using the Wyverns, you don't actually have to do anything, so just wait until it completes

Overall this is a cool "set piece" way of finishing the area. Some of the bugginess and lack of quest direction hurt the experience though, so hopefully this mini guide can help bring the fun back.

Comment by Meanders

The Quest is definitly flaky .. sometimes it works and sometimes it doesnt work at all on some servers. Blizzard GM was very helpful. Chatting with them inside 2 minutes of posting a ticket. They let me bypass the Quest without any problems .. :-)

Comment by voododoll

the quest is not bugged at all, it just have many break points. Stay with the guy on the horse at all time, you won't die so don't worry. On end phase with killing Sylvanas, do not use the rapier, it heals her to the max!

Comment by amzraptor

if you get disconnected for any reason while you are on this quest, you will be returned to the gates and forced to repeat.

Comment by 860132

Still bugged. Did it yesterday. Got the credit for finishing when Liam died, but Lorna was nowhere to be seen.

Also. If you take too long, the quest resets and you get sent back to the start!

If you lose too many men, the final battle will take too long. Also, Sylvanas seems to heal herself on occassion, and she might actually be affected by your sword buff.

Tips:
1. Stick to Liam during the battle. When he's too far you'll lose the buff and probably die horribly
2. Use your sword to keep the men (and women) alive.
3. Use the cannons against the abominations and the catapults against the giant thing.
4. When arriving at Sylvanas, don't actually fight (you'll probably won't have the buff anymore at this point), but just use your sword untill the banshees are dead. Don't use your sword on Sylvanas.
5. Get lucky, and Lorna will spawn after completion.

Comment by skyzel

So many problems with this quest. In the last two weeks I have attempted it 5 times.
First time it bugged out 3 times and threw me back to start. GM just said -- oh yes it does that sometimes -- you just have to do it again.
Second and third times I stayed close to Liam ( always put a marker on him ) but suddenly, at different points mobs turned on me and killed me very fast.
Fourth time I got to sylvanas then thrown out again.
Fifth time another player was starting it and we actually got to the end, though with several weird bits where the npc's just stood still for 4-5 minutes.
I am about to try it on an ironman toon so hoping for the best.

Comment by 982779

This quest is bugged for me. I tried using the /tar Krennan but it doesn't work and I can't find him anywhere.

Comment by 980741

It must still be bugged, I was ALMOST through and out of nowhere I'm just back at the start....

Comment by 625385

This quest can be EXTREMELY buggy.

So at first I went through the quest well, but occasionally, there would be random pauses before anyone did something, ranging from 10 seconds to 2 minutes. We got to Sylvanas, and when we got her down to 66%, I got a loading screen and appeared back at the beginning of the quest, forced to do it all over again.

Also, careful with the rapier. It affects Sylvanas, healing her to full HP in a few seconds.

Comment by Rhynchelma

Lord Darius Crowley yells: Let us join your father's force's, Liam. They'll need our help against Sylvanas.

Oh my, you would think Blizzard could hire a dialog writer who knew basic English…

Comment by Rumbuddy

Here is what a walkthrough of the working quest looks like:

1. Talk to Krennan Aranas to start the event.

(Buff people with the rapier if you want but you don't really need to. You'll also notice that self-HoT on you so you don't need to do it to yourself.)

2. Follow Liam around the city.

(Again you don't really have to fight if you don't want to.)

3. At some points he may disappear to do the next thing, so you'll also definitely want to follow the crowd when that happens.
4. You will be led to Gorerot, the huge abomination miniboss. Board the catapults to launch rocks at him. You may need to board a few before he dies because they get destroyed easily. If you notice your hp going down while you're in one, don't worry, it's not you, it's the catapult.
5. Gorerot's dead! Now Liam may stand around for a bit before going on to the next phase.

(By the way, at some point Darius Crowley will have joined you with some worgens.)

6. Follow Liam to Sylvanas.
7. Watch them try to kill Sylvanas. DO NOTHING. DO NOT BUFF WITH THE RAPIER. JUST TO BE SAFE DON'T ATTACK ANYTHING. This is what failed the quest for me because when I healed my npc's around her, I healed her to full health as well.
8. SPOILER: They won't kill her, she'll release a poison arrow that kills Liam instead of Genn. Oops.
9. The question mark appears. Go inside the building nearby to speak to Lorna Crowley and complete the quest.

Most of all, I want to confirm Ozlem's hints. Buffing around her was what failed the quest for me and I automatically ended up at the starting point having to start all over again. So having done both the bugged and non-bugged versions of the quest YES i can confirm the quest is bugged and NO it is not always a reading comprehension problem.

Congratulations! Now you get to do the next ridiculous quest in the chain where you have to follow an npc that disappears almost before you even turn around!

This was pretty disappointing quest design by the way. The only skill is tests is your ability to sit back while twiddling your thumbs and doing nothing. I love lore and story and all but there are probably better ways to incorporate it.

Comment by Conal

Personally, I suspect GM's are doing this out of boredom. Ever been ported somewhere by a GM because your toon was stuck in-game? The exact same thing is still happening on this quest. Un-F-ING-believable.

Comment by PrincessPeach

im stuck and there is nothing i can do WTF

Comment by Guanyin

Little did I know that Lady Sylvanas herself was quite fond of the rapier buff. In fact, she liked it so much, that she took the buff along with the gilneas soldiers fighting her, restoring her health at a nice and fast rate.

Comment by homiebrah

After reading the posts on here, and having it reset six times, I simply decided to do nothing and let the NPCs fight the battles. Would use the rapier during the fights and then sit back. Pulled no aggro and made no attacks.

For the "final" battle with Sylvanus, I simply found a cozy spot under one of the trees right near the fight and just watched. No attacks, no rapier, nothing.

Quest completed perfectly.

Comment by healingenzo

This is STILL one ^&*!ed up starter area. I counted 4 different bugs - and they've been reported over a YEAR ago.

Comment by 442596

This should be an awesome quest. It's not, though. It's buggy and awkward beyond belief. I'm usually one to defend Blizzard, but wow.

Comment by Moia

Still not working. I went through, got the complete status, saw the question mark, no NPC. While I was looking it up here, I was zoned out back to the livery outpost, where the quest begins. This is the 4th Worgen I have started and every bloody time, this quest breaks. The last time this happened I opened a ticket and the GM said I would have to wait for a server restart. Awesome...

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The Battle for Gilneas City

Achieve victory in the Battle for Gilneas City.

	Battle for Gilneas City Complete (1)

Provided item:

	Rapier of the Gilnean Patriots (1)

Description

The time has come, <name>. We've rallied and armed every available Gilnean.

It is time to meet the enemy head on. Time to settle the score with Sylvanas and her Forsaken dogs once and for all.

Liam is heading the assault from this gate. King Greymane and my father are leading the assault on the other districts.

You have a crucial role to play in this as well. Take this rapier. Use it to inspire our men and women in combat. Speak to Krennan Aranas to take part in the battle for Gilneas City.

Rewards

You will be able to choose one of these rewards:

	Marshalling Point		Rallying Charge
	Gilnean Shield		Cloak of the Clarion Call
	Mace of the Blood Price

You will also receive:

Gains

Upon completion of this quest you will gain:

500 reputation with Gilneas

See if you've already completed this by typing:

/run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(24904))

The Battle for Gilneas City

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