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Comment by 626784

A word of advice for every hunter: please toggle this off whenever you queue in the Random Dungeon Finder.

Comment by Kaitain

Growl will eat Grounding Totems in PvP.

Grounding Totems will eat Freeze Traps.

Get your UI/addons to show when Grounding Totem is up, then make sure to Growl before you scatter/trap the healer/dispeller. This requires you to be aware of where your pet is at that moment (if it's out of range/LoS to growl it's target, or if the Growl target is not in range of the Grounding Totem, it obviously won't work).

Comment by SilentJ

While Qonos does make a strong argument, I don't fully agree with some of his points.

1) If the pet's Growl is pulling mobs away from the tank, then the tank needs to get his game up, pure and simple. Growl doesn't generate nearly as much threat as what a tank can put out; if you're finding yourself fighting a pet for threat, then I'm sorry but you're doing something wrong.

Against a single target, a tank has enough tools at his/her disposal to out-threat a Growling pet with ease. However, this isn't the case with multiple targets. Attacks that are designed for AOE tanking (examples: Hammer of the Righteous, Consecrate, Divine Wrath) cause enough threat to keep them glued to the tank, but they are just barely enough to out-threat Growl on one single target. You are quick to point to poor tanking performance as a cause for a pet pulling aggro, but a tank has to spread threat evenly across all targets. For a tank to do this while competing with Growl's large threat generation against one target is absurd.

2) If things go sideways, the pet's threat is going to suddenly become important for off-tanking. This is especially true if the tank dies and pets need to OT for a bit, it helps tremendously to have that head-start on threat.

I can agree with this, but I find that in most situations where a tank gets stomped, it's usually the result of multiple targets attacking him/her. Since a hunter's pet is most likely Growling one target for the duration of the fight, you will have that one target under control, but you have to take the remaining others into consideration, and chances are good that they're all dotted, thereby making CC and kiting that much more difficult.

If for some reason the pet pulls the mob away from you, then it's on the hunter to keep the pet alive and manage the agro. Feel free to laugh at and mock the hunter if he and his pet die as a result... though a good hunter will manage this just fine.

Yes and no. If a pet does pull a mob away from a tank, then it's the tank's job to take aggro back, which can be done with a simple one-button taunt. A very simple solution really, but your condescending views on tanks makes your arguments judgmental and biased.

A hunter with an effective rotation/priority will easily pull agro off his pet, so what does that say about you if you can't even keep agro from the hunter AND his pet?

As I mentioned above, a tank has enough single-target tools at his/her disposal to out-threat a Growling pet with ease. You're quick to point the finger at the tank, but you didn't consider the possibility of large differences in overall item levels between the tank and the hunter. It seems that you would rather work against the tank when you could be working alongside him/her. If you feel that your tank isn't producing enough aggro, you can assist with Misdirect. You can also use Feign Death to wipe your own threat clean.

Comment by 817777

Heh, growl pull static amout of threat, it's hard to manage when you pull a pack of mobs, and 1 of this mobs suddenly changes target (pull aggro << growl aggro) and starts to hit a pet. Even Thunderclap can't overraggro 2 growls, so, you have to hit this mob with a taunt, or hard hitting ability.

Comment by 941372

Turn it off only when the tank demands.

WRONG! always turn Growl off in dungeons... learned that the hard way...

Comment by Humanenemy

Here's a useful macro for Growl (in pvp) so your traps won't get grounded by grounding totem.

/stopcasting
/cast Scatter Shot
/cast Growl

Since Growl is a melee range spell, the "" part of the macro will cause your pet to use Growl on whatever it's attacking, rather than wasting 2-4 seconds reaching to your current target.

Comment by Thottbot

I did all the hunter pet training quests, found the pet trainers, etc. but I can't find where to learn growl rank 1. The list of abilities shows that at some point I could learn growl rank 3, but I can't find where to get ranks 1 and 2 anywhere. I've been to the pet trainers at darnassass and dolonaar.

Comment by Thottbot

For people confused on where to get rank 1. If you did all your level 10 quests you should have a skill called "beast training", its in your skill book under the first tab. Growl should be in there.

Comment by Thottbot

im lvl 28 now and i don t have growl rank 1 still i dont realy know wat to get it any advice i dont think i did the last quest too

Comment by ChefCraizeeMayze

I learned some things from the pet trainer (greater Stamina, natural armor, etc)
And then I figured out that the beast training button in your general spellbook tab has those talents.
I got growl rank 1, but how do I get more points to actually learn the others that I purchased?

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Growl

Growl
Melee Range

Instant	5 sec cooldown

Your pet growls at the target, generating threat and increasing the likelihood the target will attack it.

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Physical

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n/a

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n/a

Cost

None

Range

5 yards (Combat)

Cast time

Instant

Cooldown

5 seconds

GCD

0 seconds

Effect

Threat
Value: 51
PVP Multiplier: 1

Flags

Cannot be used while shapeshifted
Initiates Combat (Enabled Auto-Attack)
No School immunities

Growl

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