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Comment by 209332

PTR lists this achievement as being worth 35 Achievement Points, not 25.

Comment by 1497

PTR lists this achievement as being worth 35 Achievement Points, not 25.

That's because in-game the system lists how much the entire series would be worth, not the individual achievement. So the 35 you're seeing is the 25 from this and 10 from "Medium Rare" before this. The in-game system does this because it wraps all the lower achievements in a series inside the highest one you've achieved to save space.

Comment by 39966

It's exactly the same list of mobs as in previous achievement, only this time you need to kill ALL of them.

Comment by jaxsonbateman

Insane quest. It's hard enough to find one rare for 'Medium Rare' when you're looking for it (well... I was lucky enough to find Kraator in the second zone I was rare searching in, though I had the help of WoWHead's maps); all of them are going to be a nightmare. I can't see anyone getting this until Wrath's well and truly out, and people are mainly only in Outland to level.

Comment by Perple

All-in-one targeting macro (255 chars), copied from Medium Rare:

/tar Fulgor
/tar Mekt
/tar Vorak
/tar Martic
/tar Bog Lurk
/tar Coilfang Em
/tar Crip
/tar Doomsay
/tar Okrek
/tar Goretoo
/tar Voidhunt
/tar Morc
/tar Hema
/tar Speak
/tar Nura
/tar Ever-Core
/tar Chief Engineer L
/tar Collid
/tar Kraat
/tar Ambassador J

Edit (2009-03-16): Finally finished this achievement. I used my above macro the entire time. The only mob that doesn't target is Fulgorge in Hellfire, as he burrows underground. I'll leave it in there for corpse targetting anyway.

Comment by Mokigg

Just so people are clear on the random chance of this, I've flown around for 13 hours and not seen one. On a higher population server it'll probably be even harder.

Comment by 207285

Keep in mind that this will be a whole lot easier when everyone moves to Northrend and Outland will become deserted. Still hard, just not as nigh-impossible like it is right now.

Comment by cywang86

Completed this 3 hours ago. Took 6 days of nonstop early morning searches.

Estimated playtime spent is about a day. Glad I'm on a low pop server.

Time to adjust my sleep schedule back to normal.....

Oh, just some hints to make this easier, whenever you find a rare spawn, grab as much guildies/friends as you can as this can be done in a raid. The more people you drag down, the easier it is to tag along for others' kills.

Comment by elderoth

Mappage

So heres a link to a map i made up that has all the locations of the outland rares, i found it to be useful while rare farming. Note that the locations are just a guide.

Not spectacular or anything, but should allow you to cut some major areas out of your search, and to look for more than one rare at a time, when combined with the above macro posted by Josh.

Comment by BigfootGolem

From a glance, the map seems to be missing Mekthorg the Wild's pathing at Hellfire Citadel, and Coilfang Emissary in Zangarmarsh.

Personally, I use this search list and just open up the maps to the mobs in the area I am currently at. Gives a more detailed location on where they spawn and patrol, but after a few sweeps, you should have it in your head.

Comment by 91604

*personally spotted @ locations*
Ambassador Jerrikar - - - Shadowmoon Valley - - -
Bog Lurker - - - Zangarmarsh - - -
Chief Engineer Lorthander - - - Netherstorm - - -
Coilfang Emissary - - - Zangarmarsh - - -
Collidus The Warp-Watcher - - - Shadowmoon Valley - - -
Crippler - - - Terokkar Forest - - -
Doomsayer Jurim - - - Terokkar Forest - - -
Ever-Core the Punisher - - - Netherstorm - - -
Fulgorge - - - Hellfire Peninsula - - -
Goretooth - - - Nagrand - - -
Hemathion - - - Blade's Edge Mountains - - -
Kraator - - - Shadowmoon Valley - - -
Marticar - - - Zangarmarsh - - -
Mekthorg The Wild - - - Hellfire Peninsula - - -
Morcrush - - - Blade's Edge Mountains - - -
Nuramoc - - - Netherstorm - - -
Okrek - - - Terokkar Forest - - -
Speaker Mar'Grom - - - Blade's Edge Mountains - - -
Voidhunter Yar - - - Nagrand - - -
Vorakem Doomspeaker - - - Hellfire Peninsula - - -

EDIT:
Took me a casual 8 - 9 days to complete on a low populated server, should be quicker for any "hardcore gamer". Highly populated servers may take longer to complete since there will be more people attempting this achievement and some of the Rares have a ridiculously long spawn time.

Good luck hunting.

Comment by 166150

Took me about five weeks to do. Pretty sure mine was server first for Elune.

Comment by 257782

I was just fighting up in northern Zangarmarsh for a quest and this Horde was watching me (no clue why) and suddenly that "Bog Lurker" came up to me, it was actually pretty easy even though I was 2 levels under monsters in that area. I guess, if you take your time leveling there, you'll find them all? xP

Comment by Gvaz

Speaker Mar'Grom is pretty uncommon, but not rare if you ask me. Or maybe thats just the number of people on my server aren't really going to Blade's Edge anymore. <__<

Comment by 301732

got all of them within 3weeks, except Doomsayer Jurem
been trying to get him for the last 2 weeks, found him dead by NPCs once
should have known one would be a *!@#block
basically, you have about 10mins to kill this guy after he spawns, then the NPCs will kill him
personally i dont see getting him to complete this achievement, without camping him 24hrs, or getting extremly lucky

Comment by Ramzal

Really unfortunate these kills weren't "remembered" before the achievement came out. I'd need maybe 1-2 more. Apparently playing on one of the lowest pop. servers pays off (sometimes..).

Comment by seidule

The mobs you will have the most trouble locating are the ones that are either part of the regular quest sequence of the Death Knight Army or the ones in locations that are constantly swarmed by leveling bots:

- Mekthorg the Wild in Hellfire
- Coilfang Emmissary in Zangarmarsh
- Voidhunter Yar in Nagrand
- Doomsayer Jurim in Terokkar
- Okrek in Terokkar
- Crippler in Terokkar

Comment by Zhamant

Ok I'm almost done with this achievement. Here are my little tips and tricks how I did it.

1. Copy/paste macro above
2. If you are casual take your time. There is no rush. There are other achievements you can do at the same time (fishing and cooking daylies).
3. One or two areas at the time. It takes only 5-6 mins to fly through one area possible spawn spots. It's perfect time to do it while you are drinking your morning coffee, waiting for raid invites or LFG que.
4. Off-peak hours give better chances to find them. I found more than half of my rares in early mornings.
5. Keep eye on area channels. Sometimes you might get some info from there. If someone lets others know that he/she just killed one remember the time. I got my Morcrush kill like that.

Good luck!

Comment by Potniak

When using the /tar macro it's important to realize when looking for Fulgorge that it won't target him, since he travels underground. (I can confirm this because I passed right over him spamming the macro.) Just look for a huge digging trail coming out of the ground that's way bigger than normal and it's him.

Comment by 305163

I've been searching for about 2 weeks now and i have 14/20
voidhunter yar seems like he will be the hardest to find b/c of all the traffic in that area
anyone know his spawn timer?

Comment by 102046

I made some images of the spawn/patrol spots of each rare mob, sorted by zone. A bit redundant, but these are a more colorful/specific than the other maps provided.

Hellfire - http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f122/terabith/oHellFrarespawns.jpg
Zangamarsh - http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f122/terabith/oZMrarespawns.png
Terokkar - http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f122/terabith/oTEROrarespawns.jpg
Nagrand - http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f122/terabith/oNAGrarespawns.png
BEM - http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f122/terabith/oBEMrarespawns.jpg
Netherstorm - http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f122/terabith/oNSrarespawns.jpg
SMV - http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f122/terabith/oSMVrarespawns.jpg

Hopefully they are accurate, hope this helps =)

Comment by Furydeath

And they say people who raid have no life.

Comment by Demonicka

I'm 2 mobs away from this achievement, and the best advice I can give is not to assume that any one person posting coords is an absolute guarantee you'll find the mob there ever. In fact, I've found rare mobs in places no one ever reported seeing them in. But I see them in that unreported spot repeatedly afterwards, either dead or alive. Best guess is that each server has a 'preferred route' that the mob likes to pat on. So, if you see them there dead a lot, assume that when you find them it will most likely be in that spot or near it as well. It helps narrow things down!

Comment by 107012

With WotLK there is a Northrend one:
Frostbitten
and
Northern Exposure the easymode one ;)

Comment by angelheart

I guess all these rares have been nerfed in the achievment patch. Can someone confirm? I remember that some of them were elite and not soloable

Comment by 275712

Just finished this today, the hardest one was definitely Fulgorge.

If you plan on starting this achievement with none of them, I would prioritize him. The combination of being underground (untargetable with the macro) and in Hellfire (extremely populated, even more so than some of the Northrend zones) makes him very difficult to find.

I offered 500g + his loot over the course of 4 days in general for people in case somebody found it before me, but nobody ever did. I finally ended up finding him at his southern spawn location near the goblin questgivers.

Outside of him, Doomsayer Jurim is difficult because he can potentially walk into guards and be killed.

The others weren't too difficult to find, I found about half early morning (2-3 ish server time), and the rest randomly throughout the day.

I don't believe any of them share spawns, I was able to find a few in the same zone within 5 minutes of each other.

All in all, this was a fun achievement to finish. Being able to get Fulgorge on my own makes me happy knowing I didn't need anybody's help along the way.

Comment by 230118

Just finiched this achivement after about a week 24/7 on Magtheridon EU.

Hard parts :

Fulgorge : 7 hours camping then he spawned.
Marticar : 14 hours camping then spawned.

I would rank this achivement highest on my list so far in wotlk.
Now I am going to start Frostbitten.

PS : Rare mobs ftw!

Comment by Hartge

When I first decided to start this achievement, getting Medium Rare first, I actually got my first kill on Doomsayer Jurim. Judging by where I killed him I caught him about 30 seconds after he spawned.

Flying around with that macro bound makes this achievement somewhat easy, the hard part of it is the RNG of the mob being up.

Comment by 264667

Got 19/20 Rares on my Paladin, took about 3-5 hours in total farming over a month
Currently spent 8 days checking every 15-30 mins for Vorakem Doomsayer in Hellfire, he has been by far the most difficult to find for me.

- Lanwë
Steamwheedle Cartel

Comment by 159048

NPCScan tracks seldom-seen rare mobs by proximity alone, making the old “/targetexact …” macros obsolete. It has the same range as those targeting macros, but you won't have to mash any buttons. Just go about your business and let _NPCScan alert you when it finds something.

http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info12995-_NPCScan.html

Comment by mbhorsten

I got two of these mobs while levelling (Bog Lurker and Hemathion), then left the achievement for a long time. Decided to start grinding it last week. Within a day I'd succeeded at getting 12 more - Nagrand, Blade's Edge and Netherstorm were the easiest to complete.

I found the maps posted here are only partially useful - it's much more helpful to get an idea of what kind of mobs the rares spawn amongst, and look for them in similar areas within the zone. For example, Collidus in Shadowmoon hangs out with the nether rays and air elementals along the edges of the zone, while Speaker Mar'grom hangs out in ogre camps in Blade's Edge. The macro above is very good, just keep removing the ones you've killed from it so you don't get excited over nothing if you spot them again.. :)

Fulgorge wasn't targetable, but you really can't miss his HUGE red boulders when you do spot him. Just be patient.

Still missing ~~Kraator~~, Crippler, Marticar and Mekthorg the Wild. ~~I am having trouble finding out exactly where Kraator spawns, although from the maps he seems to be tied to felboar areas~~. Kraator I found wandering out of the giant field behind Eclipse Point.

Comment by zakarthur

this is much easier on the PTR

for example i just set out fropped thorns (10 minute buff) and and had killed all of the rares in terrokar within 5 minutes

update killed my first rare in hellfire and i am enroute to kill the orc rare now.

Comment by 122023

I hit ever-core twice in an hour, and all the Netherstorm rares in under and hour and a half. doesn't seem as hard as many of you are saying. I am also on a high pop server :/

Comment by Daynov

Just got it , though it awarded 25 points instead of 35.

Comment by 168307

Cumulative achievements show the accumulated value you would get when you complete the current one. Look at the Level 10, 20...80 as another example. So it's only a gain of 25, as Medium + Bloody is worth 35 overall.

Comment by 376340

Pretty much easy to find by just doing a loop around Outland every few hours. I play on a low-pop server and it seemed 2-4 of these were always up during a loop. I'd heard things such as "Only 2 can be up at any time, only one in a zone". Not true. However, I do believe that it's true that about 4 can be up in the world and by killing them you trigger others to spawn.

In one loop I killed Coilfang Emissary, Morcrush, Collidus the Warp-Watcher, and Kraator. Two hours later I hopped back on and found Fulgorge, Bog Lurker, Ever-Core the Punisher, and Chief Engineer Lorthander. Then 1 1/2 hours later I found Okrek and Nuramoc on another loop. The next day I found Crippler, Marticar, Mekthorg and Voidhunter Yar. Four hours later I went around, found Nuramoc again, Ever-Core, Chief Engineer, Okrek, and checked back at the end of my loop and Goretooth had spawned.

The hardest ones to find were Vorakem Doomspeaker (spawns in a high-traffic DK leveling zone). I managed to find around at the Legion Front a little before 11pm. The next morning I started the search for Doomsayer Jurim, figuring I'd need to camp him. I camped for a bit and then did a loop around the forest to see if any of the others were up. Sure enough Crippler was and to test my theory, I killed him. I went back to look for the Doomsayer and sure enough, there he was walking down the road (my macro had a /facepalm mispelling and didn't hit but I recognized the tall Draenei, looks like a road vendor).

Also, I found Chief Engineer inside Manaforge Duro and again INSIDE the Trelleum mine. Macro hits outside, just don't get frustrated when you can't find immediately. Marticar, my macro hit and he seriously seemed to phase for about 3 minutes before I found him again! Fulgorge just look for the HUGE rumbling of red rocks someplace where the Crust Burster rocks should be sand-colored. Also, Okrek can be in a tree-hut and when the macro hits he looks just like the other birds and can take a second to locate.

Sorry, I don't run coords but Wowhead was perfect with all the location. Happy hunting!

Comment by 426622

Been working at this for the last couple of weeks and have two left (Vorakem Doomspeaker and Marticar). I read in a few places that the rare mobs in Outland spawn at the top of the hour, and this seems to be working for me. I had 7 left up for ages until 2 days ago when I tried to find more information on spawn times. Using this info lead me to Voidhunter Yar just after 1pm server two days ago, as well as Crippler/Goretooth/Ambassador Jerrikar between 9-9:10pm, and Collidus The Warp Watcher at 10:09pm last night. Checks at 7 and 8pm two days ago found nothing/Collidus was not up at 9pm last night. Goretooth was also right beside (a very active) Halaa so I doubt he had been up for more than a minute or two.

I can't seem to re-find the specific page I was looking for that explained it, but it had to do with spawn timers and not specific spawn times. If you kill an 8 hour mob at, say, 20 after the hour, it will not spawn again in exactly 8 hours. But at the top of the next hour, the server will do a mini refresh and realize the mob is no longer on a cooldown, and spawn it.

Fake edit - Marticar at 3:08pm while typing this! One left!

Comment by jacobwx

NPCScan DO find goretooth know
personally i use 3 diffrent add ons for rare farming i use NPCScan librarespawns (gives a map over spawnpoints and patrol rutes) and ESNrare if NPCscan should miss anything

Comment by 432948

I can confirm, that NPCScan does NOT trigger Nuramoc. Just found him the old-fashioned way aka target macro.

Comment by 434891

Saturday at 2:40pm Server Time, Dath'remar
Hellfire rares are all missing
Shadowmoon rares are all missing
Terokkar rares are all missing
The 2 Achievement Nagrand rares are missing (didn't check the 3rd)
Bog Lurker and Coilfang emissary are missing (didn't check Marticar)
Didn't check BEM
Didn't check Netherstorm

Are you sure these things spawn every 8 hours? They're harder to find than Azuregos.

Comment by 208468

Took me about a week on Saurfang.

Reasonably new realm so SMV,Netherstorm were easy as the places are deserted because at 68 people just dash to Northrend.

Took about a week in all, with the 3 in HP being my last ones, this place is full of players. This is doing 3-4 full runs of Outland every day, cutting it down over time according to rares found.

I liked this achievement, it became an addiction tbh. The rewards are not great, the shards sell easily on AH though.

I'm hoping they make a 'meta' of all the rares in the game, 'Bounty Hunter' seems an appropriate title. It would definitely bring more 80's back to the 'Old World'.

Comment by darthnabours

i suggest getting WoWmatrix and getting the add-ons npc-scan and rare spawn overlay then if you are level 77+ and have cold weather flight you can just fly over their patrol paths and if they are there then the npc scanner will find the one you are looking for and it will notify you i have found this very useful (but don't be stupid like me and forget to enable the scanner and fly over all the paths thinking it's on)

Comment by Furydeath

Last one I need is Coilfang Emissary and been about 8 days now still haven't even seen a dead body of it. Hellfire wasn't too bad really.

Comment by Jeaz

Here's a TomTom compatible way point list based on the nav points above. Just put in a macro and run it. (You'll have to split it up since there won't be enough room for it in one macro. Spaces indicate how much fits)
Combine this with NPCScan and you'll have this achievement sorted in no time.

/way <shadowmoon valley> 46 70 Jerrikar
/way <shadowmoon valley> 57 37 Jerrikar
/way <shadowmoon valley> 39 42 Collidus
/way <shadowmoon valley> 59 45 Kraator
/way <shadowmoon valley> 43 67 Kraator
/way zangarmarsh 25 25 <Bog Lurker>

/way zangarmarsh 45 60 <Bog Lurker>
/way zangarmarsh 62 64 Emissary
/way zangarmarsh 61 40 Emissary
/way zangarmarsh 13 41 Marticar
/way netherstorm 26 40 Lorthander
/way netherstorm 48 32 Lorthander
/way netherstorm 62 40 Lorthander

/way netherstorm 67 39 Ever-Core
/way netherstorm 58 45 Ever-Core
/way netherstorm 62 32 Ever-Core
/way netherstorm 30 77 Nuramoc
/way <terokkar forest> 30 65 Crippler
/way <terokkar forest> 40 55 Crippler
/way <terokkar forest> 45 75 Crippler

/way <terokkar forest> 35 35 Jurim
/way <terokkar forest> 65 40 Jurim
/way <terokkar forest> 55 71 Okrek
/way <hellfire peninsula> 52 72 Fulgorge
/way <hellfire peninsula> 34 60 Fulgorge
/way <hellfire peninsula> 51 49 Mekthorg

/way <hellfire peninsula> 54 27 Vorakem
/way <hellfire peninsula> 42 32 Vorakem
/way nagrand 58 28 Goretooth
/way nagrand 34 50 Goretooth
/way nagrand 38 67 Yar
/way nagrand 32 69 Yar
/way nagrand 37 76 Yar
/way <blade's edge mountains> 30 65 Hemathion

/way <blade's edge mountains> 67 72 Morcrush
/way <blade's edge mountains> 45 75 <Mar'Grom>
/way <blade's edge mountains> 40 50 <Mar'Grom>
/way <blade's edge mountains> 64 22 <Mar'Grom>

Comment by kurtiffrig

The macro script mentioned towards the top of the comments works incredibly well. If you want to add a little extra you can target and add an attack. If you're flying this will dismount you so be sure to fly somewhat low. The way I approached this achievement was by zone. For example I used this one for the Shadowmoon area. Found all three in less than 30 minutes...

/target Collidus
/target Kraator
/target Ambassador Jerrikar
/use Arcane Barrage

Be sure to replace Arcane Barrage with whatever attack you wish to use.

Comment by 250325

I am currently working towards this achievement and I've found that the addon _NPCscan from Curse.com is amazing! If a rare spawn that is part of either achievement (so only Outlands and Northrend) is nearby an alarm sounds and a small figure of the elite and its name pops up. I highly recommend this addon to anyone trying to get this achievement!
http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/npcscan.aspx

Also, if you do download this addon and you locate a rare spawn, you'll need to delete your cache file it you want to find that certain rare spawn again. Good luck and Happy hunting!

Comment by 342407

Hi

Firstly, and judging by the fact that at 1.33 PM on my server (Anachronos) I saw Doosayer Jurim being killed, and therefore went back the following day and he spawned at exactly the same time as his death, it would be fair to say that (barring any bugs) each of these rares is on an exact 24hr respawn timer from the time of their death. (I honestly can't see Blizz making separate timers for each rare).

Which in effect, could leave them all up and running if they aren't downed by anyone. And this method also gives each player the fairest chance of a kill, since realistically after each kill (unless someone has camped at the respawn spot) the clock will have advanced by either a few mins, hours etc. So that whether you are an early or a late player, you will at some point have the chance to see and kill all of these.

Very early kills (early hours of the morning) are simply coicidence and can be explained by the fact that in the evenings/night, most people tend to raid or do instances and if the mob spawned in the evening, there is therefore every chance it will still be there come the following morning. (Especially in Outlands)

It also must be noted that if you happen to be at its respawn spot, (like i was for Doomsayer Jurim AND Chief Engineer Lorthander) when it respawns, that NPCSCan will NOT give you a warning.

Therefore it would seem to me that the best chance you have to get any of these, is to make sure you do its patrol route at the same time every day. Or even more than once a day. And that if you happen to come across a body, make sure you start flying its route just before the same time the following day.

Comment by Kerrianne

I can't even begin to recommend _NPCScan and it's companion add-on, _NPCScan.Overlay.

Like what has been said before, _NPCScan takes the macro-mashing out of rare mob hunting. Overlay give you nice color-coded spawn areas on all your maps, so that you can see exactly where to fly around looking for these rare mobs for this achievement.

In literally an hour, I got Ambassador Jerrikar, Bog Lurker, Collidus the Warp-Watcher, Goretooth, Marticar, Morcrush, Nuramoc, Okrek, and Voidhunter Yar.

Granted, Outlands is easier now that there's not as many people bouncing around, but still…

Comment by 270187

This is not accurate and there are problems with the rationale in your post.

5 points.

1, I came across Okrek having been killed by someone else. Roughly 5-6 hours later he was back up at another spawn point.

2, Your theory of exact 24 hour spawns at the same location falls apart when you factor in that just about all of these rares have several different spawn locations. If they kept respawning at the same spot every 24 hours, why would they have several different spots.

3, Blizzard does take the time and effort to put in different timers for different mobs and, more importantly, to make them randomized. This is done to keep people from having a monopoly on the spawns by being able to distill their spawn times down to an exact science. Given that they have thrown unique dialogue and loot onto these mobs, going the extra step to create varying spawn timers for these mobs isn't a huge stretch.

4, Assuming that you were back at the same spawn point at the exact time you were at the preceding day, there is no way for you to know that the mob you personally witnessed at the exact same time did not spawn again between the time you had killed it the first time and found it the second time. For all you know, he could have been popping up every 3, 6, 9, 12 (or whatever) hours after the first kill.

5, Finding rares during non-peak hours isn't a coincidence, it's maximizing your odds. The less people there are online to stumble across a rare and kill it, the greater the chance you have of finding it. Put it another way, if you were the only person in Zangarmarsh looking for rares, you'd have a very good chance at getting any that are up. If there were 10 people in Zangarmarsh questing, looking for rares, etc. your chances decrease.

I only wrote all this because this achievement can be difficult enough as it is and I don't think people should feel they have to camp a spawn point, and that rares are absolutely not on 24 hour set respawn timers. For some rares this might be a smart strategy (specifically, rares in HFP, Zangar, Terokkar (Doomsayer especially, as he can die to Shatt guards!) and Nagrand, as those are still heavily utilized zones by folks who are levelling up, but folks can make better use of their time by going through Netherstorm/BEM/etc and checking each spawn point and then moving on. :)

Comment by 333404

anyone ever have trouble getting credit for the kills?
in a 5 minute span i killed ambassador jericaar and collidus but did not get credit for the collidus kill even after i looted the body.

Comment by 333404

Iwasnt in a raid i was in the area working on the tricks and treats of outlands achievment.

ed. for spelling.

Comment by alexwow

I looked through Outland right after a server restart (tuesday) and there were no rare's up.

Comment by 422282

Anyone who's done the Higher Learning quest in Dalaran should be familiar with Blizzard's rare spawn mechanic. It comes down to: an activated spawn cycle, (the Dalaran book cycle is 3 hours) which on server up, either generates the mob or a placeholder "or" counts down a cycle, which has an increasing chance to generate the spawn or placeholder after each cycle completes. If the mob or the placeholder spawns, the generation of that spawn pauses untill the mob is cleared, at which the timer begins from that point. To lend credit to this, I've had most luck on 4 and 6 hour intervals within 36 hours of every server restart, after that it can vary, (though high traffic spawns will likely not vary by much for obvious reasons.)

Comment by 447938

I would just like to remind everyone of the importance of clearing your cache, if you're using addons like SilverDragon or NCPScan. I'd found Mekthorg the Wild dead once but never cleared my cache. Flew over him several times before I used /tar Mek on a whim and he popped up.

Wonder how many times I've missed Grocklar, High Thane Jorfus and Bog Lurker because of that. :(

Comment by 359822

Also you misspelled Kraator :)

Took me some minutes to find out that I've killed Kraator and there's no Kreator anywhere around. :)

Comment by 465890

_NPCScan
_NPCScan.Overlay

Are 2 addons that make this 1000 times easier then without. One sends drums/ringing when u spot the rare you are looking for and a portrait shows up on yr screen, click it and u target the mob.

The other addon shows each mobs name in a color and shows both on map and minimap where they roam, very handy indeed.

Rares in starter areas were ofc the ones I had most problems with, and have yet to get Bog Lurker and Nuramoc.

I know a team of 3 have been in each of the 3 spawn points of Bog Lurker since server restart last 3 days, they have yet to spot him. This is a bit odd.

Nuramoc is tameable, so many BM hunters are after him.

Whoever downrated the post about clearing yr cache is a fool you have to do this if your settings are not so that it ignores Nuramoc tamed mobs, or else it will not show where he roams nor tick off with drums/bells and the portrait on yr screen.

By far, this achievement is a lot easier then Frostbitten in Northrend, see very few ppl in Outland nowadays, rares are there for you to slay

Comment by 538097

The most useful piece of advice I've come across, aside from getting NPCscan and NPCoverlay, is to look for most mobs at or just after the hour. Although certain mobs do not spawn right on the hour (Mekthorg the wild, doomsayer jurim, and fulgorge that I know of), the majority of these mobs only spawn on the hour. I was already 13/20 when I finally found this advice, and proceeded to find Hemathion on the next hour (just after 8), and Ambassador Jerrikar on the next (just after 9). This should make sense to anyone who's found 3-4 mobs all right after one another and other times there's not a single one to be found.

Edit: I found fulgorge at 10:25, after having searched for him at 10:05. Didn't find any of my remaining 4 at 11 (Okrek, mekthorg, doomspeaker, marticar), but then at 12:03 I found Okrek and happened to pass by doomsayer jurim at 12:04 while going to hellfire. Only 2 more to go and then I get to camp Mekthorg >.>.

Edit 2: Doomspeaker down at 2:01, was not up at the same location at 1:55.

Comment by Snikmord

Tip: If you're not a druid or hunter, you may find Blackened Worg Steak helpful in your quest to hunt down the humanoids for the Bloody Rare achievement. Happy hunting! ;-)

Comment by Hegre

after they have spawned.. do they despawn after some time? or do they stay until killed?

Is there a limit to how many rares there can be up at the same time?

Comment by Crusadees

Here is a list sorted in order location. I do suggest to download NPCscan and NPCscan overlay. Very helpful addon.

Netherstorm
Chief Engineer Lorthander
Ever-Core the Punisher
Nuramoc

Blade's Edge Mountains
Hemathion
Morcrush
Speaker Mar'Grom

Terokkar Forest
Doomslayer Jurim
Okrek
Crippler

Hellfire Peninsula
Fulgorge
Mekthorg the Wild
Vorakem Doomspeaker

Zangarmarsh
Marticar
Coilfang Emissary
Bog Lurker

Nagrand
Voidhunter Yar
Goretooth

Shadowmoon Valley
Ambassador Jerrikar
Colldus the Warp-Watcher
Kraator

Comment by Taumma

Killed Kraator while farming Nightmare Seeds, around one and a half hour later I found Collidus the Warp-Watcher not far from there.

Found Kraator at around 46.2, 13.4 and Collidus the Warp-Watcher at around 74.1, 30.6

Comment by 455073

Sad fact that Doomsayer Jurim (Doomsayer Jurim) when spawned at the location just outside Shattarath City will be killed by the patrolling NPC guards.

Comment by 341672

I've been doing this achievement for 6 days now. Started without any addon or other help.
It seems impossible without help so i installed _NPCScan and _NPCOverlay which made it a LOT! easier. These addons work like a charm. As well I have to say that i play on a very crowded server. Anyone else is probably faster ;(((( I ended up at one remaining raremob after those six days. (Vorakem Doomspeaker ;) hoping to finish it today :D

Comment by alexiel

I found 6/8 of my achievement left on a Tuesday night at about 3am server time.
It would make sense that these would spawn after a patch/reset of the server.

Comment by 650416

I have been working on this for about 4 weeks, off and on. Found 5 rares within 3 days. Now, cant find anyone and spent several hours/days looking. I have read the comments but still no rares. Anyone else looking at this acheivemenet? Any luck?

Comment by 650416

update-just found 2 more Rares in one day. Nuramoc in Netherstorm and Crippler in the center of Auchidon. I guess it just takes time.

Comment by Shogol

I've found every rare spawn atleast twice some even 3 times (Hemathion and Marticar) but I havent found Mekthorg, The sad part is I have him on 2 of my alts :( I'll keep looking i guess.

Comment by 180150

I have about half these done (the first half I was finding 3/day inside a single circuit) - since these early wins, I've been really struggling.

So last night 6 - 6.5 hours after server restart, I did some circuits, none of my missing mobs had spawned. Maybe this will help people (like me) thinking there's an influx of rares at certain points.

Comment by staticmajor

does anyone know what the respawn timer on theese mobs are? wondering about hanging on top of spawn locations and camp for the 2 last ones i need!

Comment by 752443

I'm not sure what the rarespawn "cap" is for outlands (if there is one at all), but picking a time of day when your server has been very quiet for hours is definitely the way to go. I did a sweep early saturday morning server-time on my server (high-pop) and picked up eleven of these in less than an hour, despite not even checking some locs that I already had. -Very- easily done if you can find the right time of day, and bring npcscan with you :)

Comment by 797359

I got this a while back and never see anyone describe the method me and my group used. What we did was to get a group of people and assign them a zone/s. We knew the paths they took and where to look.

First thing we noted was there was always at least 1 rare up. With 5-10 people looking if there is one up you will find it, and it would only take 5-20 minutes to find one when everyone was in their zone. When someone found it they would tag it, and wait for the whole group to show up to get credit, then we killed it. Afterward we would return to our assigned zones and look again, and sure enough it didn't take more then 20 minutes to find one, sometimes as few as 5 minutes.

Second thing we noted was the same rare would never spawn twice in a row.

Third was rares could spawn back to back in the same zone, just never the same one we killed (hence some kills would only take us 5 minutes).

We did this over a couple days for 2 hours or so each. Everyone in the group got the achievement in this time frame except 2 or 3 people who missed a day. Things we didn't determine was if you have to kill a full cycle of rares in order for the same ones to re-spawn or not cause we didn't want to nor did we need to spend that long to test everything out.

So get a group, assign them an area, and look around. Tag it when you see it, but let it live till everyone shows up for credit. Rinse and repeat. Enjoy your bloody rare achievement.

P.S. I never tested this with Frostbitten, but I have a guild buddy that got it by himself and he said he noticed similarities in the spawn patters.

Comment by SpiderX3m

Like I mentioned in my "Medium Rare" comment. I'm using http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info13275-BloodyRare.html which helps me alot. I hope it will help you also.

Comment by 650416

dont listen to anyone here. just get NPCscan and camp the spots, you will have some early successes, and somr that take awhile. I started 07/2010 and just finished tonight (Mekthorg the Wild). so I ercommend just doing your Quest and if you pop, then great.'

Comment by 803836

Or use this for macro less characters:
/tar 17144
/tar 18677
/tar 18678
/tar 18679
/tar 18680
/tar 18681
/tar 18682
/tar 18683
/tar 18685
/tar 18686
/tar 18689
/tar 18690
/tar 18692
/tar 18693
/tar 18694
/tar 18695
/tar 18696
/tar 18697
/tar 18698
/tar 20932

Comment by Jinny

For those using NPC, make sure it's activated because sometimes you may have accidentally disabled it by clicking on the map, then enabled it again but for some reason it didn't work (trust me it happens). So keep an eye for the mobs, not just the map and run some ''tests'' on yourself to see if NPC's working.

Blue mobs as colored by NPC are the hardest to be found while red's spawn more frequently than greens and blues.Either way it's not going to be easy.Just keep looking on different days and you'll eventually find them all.

Comment by LSavage

Aiue asked:

alive at the same time?

I can confirm that this is in fact the case. I found Ambassador Jerrikar in Shadowmoon Valley. Since I had already killed him, I had no need to urgently kill him. Instead I whispered my friend who was also online and informed him that Jerrikar was up.

I then proceeded to search the rest of the zone in the hopes of finding Collidus or Kraator while my friend made his way to Outland. During my sweep I found Collidus. I grouped up with my friend, and camped at Collidus until he arrived and we shared the kill. I then led him to where I had spotted Jerrikar, and found Jerrikar still alive and unharmed.

Therefore both Jerrikar and Collidus were definitely alive at the same time.

Based on my experience hunting both this achievement and Northern Exposure I would say with a good deal of certainly that most, if not all, of these rarespawns are independent of one another and that the same is true of the Northrend rares

The only exception I know of is that Time-Lost Proto Drake and Vyragosa share a spawn.

In fact I would go so far as to say that these days it is quite likely you will find a few rare spawns up simultaneously, especially if you are looking in the early hours of the morning. This is because the mobs are mostly being killed by people specifically looking for them rather than people who happen to be in the zone (Northrend and Outland now being largely unpopulated by players).

So what tends to happen is that a rare will spawn, and could very easily remain unharmed for a few hours - long enough for the other rares in the zone to also spawn. And they would likely stay alive until someone hunting for the achievement does a sweep and kills all of them.

Comment by jd234

Either I was very lucky, or this is fairly easy as of 4.1 (or possibly both). I suspect it is just easy because, with heirloom gear, and guild bonuses, people aren't really spending much time in Outlands these days. So, since no one is around I got all of these really quickly, sometimes as many as 5 in one tour of Outland.

Basically, when I was incredabored, I would just go to outland and do some fly-bys with NPCscan, and the NPCscan map overlay. I never camped, and I always found at least one rare on my tours. With this strategy, I got this within a 3 weeks of starting to do this, and I don't think I did more than 5 tours in total, or spent more than a few hours on this.

I also found I Bro'Gaz the Clanless twice. He seems to be the only outland rare-spawn that was excluded from this achiev ... though I don't know why.

Comment by ExileFromLife

I was lucky enough to get Vorakem Doomspeaker my first time in Outland. Unfortunately, I've yet to find any others.

Comment by Nui1

If you get really bored of flying around all the zones like i did, spice it up by zooming your camera all the way in and pretending you can fly dodging buildings and the like!
Put your face up to the screen to increase the effect of flying.

Comment by 447904

Took me 3 days to complete. It's not that hard these days. All you need is a bit of luck and a lot of patience.

Comment by Xreaper

If you have Curse Client there is an addon called NPCScan (if you get it download NPCScan then NPCScan.Overlay) this helps you with this. On your map and Mini-map if will show the path each rare has, and it will show if if you find it so dont bother looking for it just run across the path. If you come within 300yards of it your mini-map will flash, a sound will be made, an Icon will apear at the bottom of your screen (if you click the icon it will target it, and it also marks it with a triangle. This addon will also tell you if it killed or not (catched) if you Type "/NPCScan" I recommend this for everyone.

Comment by 504503

my best advice for this is to:

get NPCscan, NPCscan overlay, and do this in the morning (maybe on a weekend morning, it's Saturday morning for me).

It is 10:58 EST (7:58AM PST) and I am wrapping up my outland hunting for the day. Up untill just now, I've gotten 8 consecutive kills (note: 2 were missing/not spawned).

Make sure to go slow if you have 280/310! It takes a sec for enemies to spawn. don't just fly through, stop every few seconds (make sure you can see other enemies behind and in front of you).

Comment by 269607

Aforementioned earlier by a previous poster you can use a batch file to automate the deletion process of the creaturecache.wdb for _NPCscan. To do this takes a little PC savy.

To start open Notepad and click File then Save As
In the File name box type: wow.bat
and select your desktop for location to save the file, and click Save
Once this is done copy and paste the following lines into notepad then click Save

@ECHO OFF
REM The next line deletes the creature cache
PAUSE
DEL "C:\Users\Public\Games\World of Warcraft\Cache\WDB\enUS\creaturecache.wdb"
REM The next line will start World of Warcraft
PAUSE
CALL "C:\Users\Public\Games\World of Warcraft\Launcher.exe"
EXIT

To explain this
@ECHO OFF prevents the batch file from looping
REM is hidden text to notate what is happening (these can be removed)
DEL is the delete command... the path must be inside quotation marks for Vista and Win7 to prevent long filename issues.
PAUSE asks for user input "press any button to continue", (these can be removed from the above code to speed things up)
CALL contacts and opens an exsisting program or file.
EXIT once the batch has confirmation the file has opened it will close the batch file window.

You can place this batch file anywhere, right click the Wow.bat file select "Send To" create a link on desktop, then right click the link on your desktop select properties select the Shortcut Tab in Win7, at the bottom click "Change Icon..." and select a icon to replace the drab batch file one.

Good luck rate up if it helped.

Comment by 614467

It helps if you're not on high/full populated server. I'm on medium and in one run I found 10 rares, no joke.

Basically I killed a few when I was doing random stuff in Outlands and in my first run today I have found at least 10 rares and I only need 2 for the achievement - one in Hellfire and one in Zangarmarsh.

Comment by Vindaloo

Not mentioned before, so some advice on getting this achievement on a low level. I duel-screened my main and an alt (two accounts). I began this thinking both toons needed to be in kill range - that's true for rolling on loot - but It is sufficient for the low level alt to be in party and in the zone to get the credit for the kill. So I just go to the nearest flight point before the main engages.

-BUT-

I just killed Kraator (18th/20 rares) and my alt didnt get the credit. We were not in raid. The only difference was Kraator was the one rare my main already had. So if I find him again I'll get my alt into kill range and even try and tag it first to be sure. Something dodgy about what triggers a kill credit here.

Comment by 952779

People have got to stop posting useless information that extends the page.

The respawn timers are about 24 hours, basically 1 day. So if you don't see any of the NPCs, just save yourself time and wait the next day.

Comment by Uladen

For this achievement, you should get these addons :
NPC scan
NPC scan overlay

Comment by PoshKenneth

The way I tackled this achievement was casually at first, with the aid of NPC scan. This achievement really requires NPC scan unless you have an eagle eye.

So firstly, I casually found them whilst questing with NPC scan, and killed them of course, not worrying to specifically look for any until I was about 4 or 5 NPCs left for the achievement.

Then I flew over their spawn points whenever in Outland (if you are rep grinding or doing profession dailies this is a good time to do it) and that tackled the last few, until I had two left.

For these two, Kraator and Speaker Mar'grom, flying over their spawn points wasn't enough, so I waited til after the server reset, flew over their spawn sites, and voila! Bloody Rare!

Hope this helps some people getting this worthwile 35 pointer!

Comment by Guy19

To make rare hunting easy get these add-ons. ;)

Comment by Cassandrart

This in a macro along with NPCScan makes this a lot easier

/tar Ambassador Jerrikar
/tar Chief Engineer Lorthander
/tar Collidus the Warp-Watcher
/tar Doomsayer Jurim
/tar Fulgorge
/tar Hemathion
/tar Marticar
/tar Morcrush
/tar Okrek
/tar Voidhunter Yar
/tar Bog Lurker
/tar Coilfang Emissary
/tar Crippler
/tar Ever-Core the Punisher
/tar Goretooth
/tar Kraator
/tar Mekthorg the Wild
/tar Nuramoc
/tar Speaker Mar'grom
/tar Vorakem Doomspeaker

Comment by Runemauler

There is no harm in shortening up the names a bit. Someone else suggested using the numeric values to shorten the character count even further, but I like to be able to recognize the names of each, in my macro, without having to look up the numbers. Especially if your going to delete each rare's line, as you kill them. Personally; I find it faster to type "/M" and glance at my macro, to see which rare's remain to be tracked down and killed, than to navigate the Achievements Panel.

/cleartarget
/tar Bog Lurker
/tar Coilfang Emi
/tar Collidus
/tar Crippler
/tar Ever-Core
/tar Fulgorge
/tar Goretooth
/tar Hemathion
/tar Jerrikar
/tar Jurim
/tar Kraator
/tar Lorthander
/tar Mar'grom
/tar Marticar
/tar Mekthorg
/tar Morcrush
/tar Nuramoc
/tar Okrek
/tar Voidhunter Yar
/tar Vorakem
/cleartarget

The "/cleartarget " lines are there to help ensure the macro function smoothly and to keep it from getting stuck on the rare you just killed, when looking for another rare that might have spawned nearby. I don't recall specifically, but I thought there were a few that could spawn fairly close to each other.

Links

Bloody Rare

Kill all of the extremely rare and hard to find Outland creatures listed below.

Criteria

	Goretooth (1)
	Ambassador Jerrikar (1)
	Crippler (1)
	Hemathion (1)
	Morcrush (1)
	Speaker Mar'grom (1)
	Chief Engineer Lorthander (1)
	Mekthorg the Wild (1)
	Collidus the Warp-Watcher (1)
	Voidhunter Yar (1)

	Kraator (1)
	Bog Lurker (1)
	Fulgorge (1)
	Marticar (1)
	Nuramoc (1)
	Vorakem Doomspeaker (1)
	Ever-Core the Punisher (1)
	Okrek (1)
	Doomsayer Jurim (1)
	Coilfang Emissary (1)

NPCScan

Information and Addon Downloads for NPCScan

/npcscan add 17144 Goretooth
/npcscan add 18696 Kraator
/npcscan add 18695 Ambassador Jerrikar
/npcscan add 18682 Bog Lurker
/npcscan add 18689 Crippler
/npcscan add 18678 Fulgorge
/npcscan add 18692 Hemathion
/npcscan add 18680 Marticar
/npcscan add 18690 Morcrush
/npcscan add 20932 Nuramoc
/npcscan add 18693 Speaker Mar'grom
/npcscan add 18679 Vorakem Doomspeaker
/npcscan add 18697 Chief Engineer Lorthander
/npcscan add 18698 Ever-Core the Punisher
/npcscan add 18677 Mekthorg the Wild
/npcscan add 18685 Okrek
/npcscan add 18694 Collidus the Warp-Watcher
/npcscan add 18686 Doomsayer Jurim
/npcscan add 18683 Voidhunter Yar
/npcscan add 18681 Coilfang Emissary

TomTom

Information and Addon Downloads for TomTom

/way Nagrand 75.6 75.4 Goretooth
/way Nagrand 31.2 50.4 Goretooth
/way Nagrand 31.4 52.4 Goretooth
/way Shadowmoon Valley 42.2 68.8 Kraator
/way Shadowmoon Valley 30.0 45.8 Kraator
/way Shadowmoon Valley 30.6 42.6 Kraator
/way Shadowmoon Valley 46.6 70.6 Ambassador Jerrikar
/way Shadowmoon Valley 27.2 50.8 Ambassador Jerrikar
/way Shadowmoon Valley 27.6 48.4 Ambassador Jerrikar
/way Zangarmarsh 23.4 29.2 Bog Lurker
/way Zangarmarsh 21.6 21.0 Bog Lurker
/way Zangarmarsh 22.0 23.6 Bog Lurker
/way Terokkar Forest 32.6 51.2 Crippler
/way Terokkar Forest 28.8 55.8 Crippler
/way Terokkar Forest 28.8 63.4 Crippler
/way Hellfire Peninsula 56.4 71.8 Fulgorge
/way Hellfire Peninsula 23.0 56.4 Fulgorge
/way Hellfire Peninsula 23.2 61.4 Fulgorge
/way Blade's Edge Mountains 29.2 50.8 Hemathion
/way Blade's Edge Mountains 27.4 54.4 Hemathion
/way Blade's Edge Mountains 27.6 72.0 Hemathion
/way Zangarmarsh 18.2 31.0 Marticar
/way Zangarmarsh 9.2 52.4 Marticar
/way Zangarmarsh 10.0 53.8 Marticar
/way Blade's Edge Mountains 59.4 24.6 Morcrush
/way Blade's Edge Mountains 59.2 23.0 Morcrush
/way Blade's Edge Mountains 59.4 20.2 Morcrush
/way Netherstorm 34.0 25.4 Nuramoc
/way Netherstorm 22.6 80.0 Nuramoc
/way Netherstorm 23.8 81.8 Nuramoc
/way Blade's Edge Mountains 41.8 56.0 Speaker Mar'grom
/way Blade's Edge Mountains 39.2 56.2 Speaker Mar'grom
/way Blade's Edge Mountains 40.8 48.2 Speaker Mar'grom
/way Hellfire Peninsula 73.2 57.4 Vorakem Doomspeaker
/way Hellfire Peninsula 38.8 32.0 Vorakem Doomspeaker
/way Hellfire Peninsula 39.2 30.2 Vorakem Doomspeaker
/way Netherstorm 27.4 38.4 Chief Engineer Lorthander
/way Netherstorm 25.8 42.4 Chief Engineer Lorthander
/way Netherstorm 26.4 40.0 Chief Engineer Lorthander
/way Netherstorm 29.6 40.8 Ever-Core the Punisher
/way Netherstorm 19.4 71.8 Ever-Core the Punisher
/way Netherstorm 19.8 69.4 Ever-Core the Punisher
/way Hellfire Peninsula 41.6 69.8 Mekthorg the Wild
/way Hellfire Peninsula 40.4 68.0 Mekthorg the Wild
/way Hellfire Peninsula 41.6 72.4 Mekthorg the Wild
/way Terokkar Forest 49.6 18.2 Okrek
/way Terokkar Forest 30.2 43.4 Okrek
/way Terokkar Forest 31.4 42.0 Okrek
/way Shadowmoon Valley 58.8 70.6 Collidus the Warp-Watcher
/way Shadowmoon Valley 37.0 44.6 Collidus the Warp-Watcher
/way Shadowmoon Valley 38.4 42.8 Collidus the Warp-Watcher
/way Terokkar Forest 43.8 26.2 Doomsayer Jurim
/way Terokkar Forest 35.4 38.8 Doomsayer Jurim
/way Terokkar Forest 35.8 33.4 Doomsayer Jurim
/way Nagrand 33.8 76.0 Voidhunter Yar
/way Nagrand 32.2 71.2 Voidhunter Yar
/way Nagrand 32.4 68.8 Voidhunter Yar
/way Zangarmarsh 70.4 72.8 Coilfang Emissary
/way Zangarmarsh 25.0 42.2 Coilfang Emissary
/way Zangarmarsh 25.2 37.4 Coilfang Emissary

Bloody Rare

Criteria

NPCScan

TomTom

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