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Comment by 274881

Anyone know the cast time for this? Im assuming its instant and comparable damage to ice lance...

Comment by Vip3r

Cast time Instant

School Damage (Fire, Shadow)
Value: 1838 to 2134

But who cares, its GREEN FIRE!

Comment by ShadowProphet

Nice to finally get a green fire spell, and not have to spec desto to get it. <3

Comment by vektor

this is the first spell in warlocks arsenal that can really help to deal with small adds in pve, finishing blows in pvp and such, the only instant cast spell was Soul Burn, that was not usable in pve.
All of you warlocks, remember these times, when affliction had to cast SB/SP to kill bones on Lord Marrowgar and such (how many casts were made only to see the target died before it landed?)

Comment by 147680

FINALLY! an instant cast without cd is just what warlocks needs!

Comment by 631541

Nice, and the fact that it refreshes immolate as an instant cast will make this infinitely more useful in PVE than most people will image.

Comment by clavarnway

You guys seem to be ignoring one of the best uses of this...

Instant cast totem killer. Warlocks in Live right now are required to either use a cast time spell or have their pet kill totems. Cast times are bad for various reasons (cast time reduction effects/interrupts/slowness) and pets are unreliable for other reasons (slows/stuns/pet died/pet not near totem). Now a Warlock can instantly kill a Tremor or Grounding Totem as soon as they see it, at range, and without a cooldown.

Comment by Avalanchian

I am assuming that the duration of UA and immolate will not be able to exceed the 15 sec max? So this can get weaved into rotations every time UA or immolate drops below 9 sec left?

Really looking forward to this spell as an affliction warlock. Not only is it instant damage, but it means that I can keep UA and corruption on a target while doing damage (and later banes will get that at 25%! Yay!). =D

Comment by 177014

Within the current beta patch, Fel Flame has a base damage value around 300 and a bonus spell power coefficient of about 34.30%. With these numbers, Fel Flame looks to be the PvE option to buy some time for Immol or UA when they cannot be recast (i.e. on the move). With a low DPCT value, it will not be a part of any tree's standard DPS rotation, unless the numbers change drastically.

Comment by monstermoul

Fear the warlock... we now shoot Brocoli Balls = perfect recipe for death

Comment by 366430

On a side note, its a perfect ability for taking out those pesky shammy totems without having to waste shards or blow CDs, or have to yell at your imp to attack it.

Comment by Tannen

So would this receive a 30% bonus from the "Demonic Knowledge" demonology passive ability?

Comment by 355721

It's good to have an instant cast spell that increases the durations of some dots on your target, but on the other side, this spell doesn't do the trick that it has to do in my honest opinion. Let's see...

-- You have an instant cast spell that you can spam. Though It's green fire and looks pretty awesome, I dont like instant cast spells that much because they affect my casting rotation negatively. (8/10)
-- It hits like 2-3k and crits like 5-6k with ilvl277 gear on beta servers if I'm not mistaken. T11 p4 set has a bonus for %2 change to make your next Fel Flame a guaranteed crit, which is absolutely rubbish in my opinion (even T9 p4 set is better). (4/10)
-- Demo locks have Hand of Gul'dan to do the same job which is good and deals some aoe as well. (you don't need Fel Flame here) (1/10)
-- As an affliction warlock, you will start using Drain Soul when the boss hits %25 and this way, you will renew Corruption and Unstable Affliction every time you use Drain Soul. You won't need Fel Flame for this duration. So, what about the first %75 of the fight? Unstable Affliction lasts 15 seconds as you all know. In a 4 minute length fight, you need to use Fel Flame sooo many times if you don't want it to fade away (or spam it 3 or 4 times to raise its duration to 20~ seconds). If you spam it so often, your dps most likely will get lower because of GCDs and your dps rotation will be destroyed. Instead, you can cast one more Unstable Affliction and forget everything. This is much more reasonable choice I presume. (3/10)
-- Same thing goes for Destruction Warlocks as well. Would you like to spam 3 or 4 times Fel Flame to make your Immolate 20 seconds again or cast it once more and forget it? I prefer the second choice here. (2/10)

So, here is my thought for Fel Flame. Ofc I dont think it's a bad spell to have. It hits fairly good amount of damage, it's instant and it is green fire! We warlocks always wanted to have something like that, but this could have been much more better. (3,6/10)

Comment by 60705

The biggest reason this was added was to give Warlocks the ability to do damage while moving. This was not as needed for us as other classes, but it's nice that Blizzard was thinking about everyone when thinking about attacking on the move.

The proper way to theorycraft this spell is to consider it in both a moving and non-moving scenario. Obviously many of you have already done the non-moving theorycraft hoping that it would replace shadowbolt (I don't know why that's so important to you as you'd just be switching a destro spell for a destro spell), but not much has been done on the theorycrafting while moving.

The only thing I am unsure about is if the "refresh" for UA or Immolate can exceed the normal max duration or not. If not then this is an ability you can use probably once unlikely to use it twice while moving. If you use this once while moving, you can consider the damage of the ability itself plus two ticks of immolate or ua as the total damage this ability provides. This means that it will be roughly equal to a shadow bolt in terms of damage, and it comes with a lower time spent casting (GCD versus 2.5 seconds unhasted). This means while we move we can cast this, life tap, a bane/curse, corruption, death coil, soul shard + soulburn, shadowburn, conflag, shadowfury, and any other instant casts I may have missed. The overall changes to the class has made it so that any spec can do respectable damage while moving, but you have to be sitting and casting most of the time to do good damage.

The above posters have said that this ability is only an average situational spell. I disagree and say that it is now going to be a staple ability for me in nearly every boss encounter I see from here on out (most of them require you to move at some point or another).

Comment by n4rt0n

finally i don't have to cast searing pain to stop people from capping flags in AB lol

why down rate? it's true!

Comment by Goregash

The damage is CRAP!

Edit: The damage is now mediocre. 2 Days ago when I reached 81 I shot a lvl 14 stag down with Fel Flame but it Only did 287 damage -_-'
Last night I was telling a friend and wanted to link the spell as I logged on it was changed to my Spellpower and now does around 1700 dmg normal and 3.4k crit.

It beats recasting Immolate all the time ^_^

Comment by sorcereo

It's my *S.I.C.C.™!

(*Spontaneous Instant Critter Combuster)

Comment by 218765

It appears fel flame does not affect the tic timer when used to add time. Tested by casting UA on a mob and spamming fel flame at it. Still got UA tics, so there shouldn't be a worry about when to refresh as long as it's after 9 seconds.

Comment by 736231

One of the better uses for this is to help eliminate downtime between fights while leveling in Destruction, at least in my experience. Keeping your main DoTs instant cast is helpful, but also having Conflagrate refresh every 10 seconds (Glyph of Conflagrate being a must-have, but that's a no-brainer for Destro) is a great way to slow harder-hitting mobs and keep them off your squishy body while you burn them down. Plus, this spell crits for 5-6k (@ level 83), which kinda makes longer-cast spells like Soulfire (which I see crit for 12k tops) irrelevant for PvE trash. This means less bandaging/Soul Harvest/healthstones/etc. I even took down Caimas the Pit Master without dragging him over a single pile of eggs this way. Just don't back into an unseen group of enemies while kiting. O_o

Honestly, I've seen significantly improved survivability in my spec with this spell. I won't be too surprised to it get nerfed somewhere down the line.

Comment by 563818

This awsome spell has become my primary filler in affliction pvp. After casting AU the first time, I only ever have to stop to recast haunt. The rest of the time, I just spam this spell - swapping with shadow bolt whenever I get a proc on Shadow Trance - and reflesh BoA/BoD as needed.

Comment by Vladtear

The timer on the target is misleading. The "cake" timer will be whole after you cast this, even though Immolate or UA has less than maximum duration remaining.

Example: You cast Fel Flame while Immolate has 3 seconds left. Immolate now has 9 seconds left but the immolate "cake" will be whole. The "cake" will "be eaten" in 9 seconds.

Just to make it clear :)

Comment by 804780

For demo locks, I found a macro combination of this and Felguard attack very useful for grinding. Tap target and let FG do the job while you are doing something else. Especially if you for some reason grind lower level mobs that may go down before your corruption/other instant cast has ticked enough to tap it before FG has killed them. Great to deal some extra damage while directing your pet.

Comment by 561234

It should be pointed out that this spell is not by any means an efficient way to refresh Immolate (for demo and destro) or UA (for affliction).

Unless you're moving, you should always recast Immolate or UA. UA's cast time is less than the GCD, and Immolate's is just a little more. Not only that, but you could be using that GCD to refresh Corruption or Bane of Doom.

Don't get me wrong, I love green fire as much as the next, but this spell really has no real use, except to kill critters and refresh your dots on the run.

Besides, it you use Fel Flame to refresh your dots, you only get six seconds out of it. Much more efficient to just recast.

Comment by 463721

maybe it's just because I'm a gnome and smaller than most mobs but it seems that if I fire this spell at average size mobs the spell effect upon impact on my target looks like it misses or hits above the target. Anyone else notice this? Just doesn't seem to hit guys right.

Comment by SaintDoom

With this spell, warlocks can kite AND keep all of their DoTs on the target.

(Well, any DoT other than Immolate or Unstable Affliction that is instant cast.)

Comment by 851942

This ability was put into the game for 1 purpose, Affliction PvP. All you morons complaining about how it's bad for PvE miss the entire point. It isn't meant to be used there or AT ALL for Demo or Destru. You see as Demo or Dest, if you get kicked casting either tree, you have alternative spells. If they kick your fire, you can still cast Death Coil, Teleport, Fear, Howl of Terror, Shadow Ward, or Drain Life. If they kick your shadow, then you can still cast your main DPS.(You can even cast Fel Flame too if either are kicked) But if you are Affliction and you get kicked... guess what... you can't cast ANYTHING ELSE except maybe Shadowflame... but that's mostly fire damage, has a short range, and a cd, so it is pretty much useless for Affliction even though you can cast it when tree locked.

To combat this problem, they put this in, Fel Flame. You can now cast this while your shadow tree is locked instead of just standing there uselessly taking it up the ass while you wait for the lock to expire. The renew effect to your UA is pure bonus. You can even throw this in normally to renew UA faster, which quickly became my new habbit. Why wait for it to expire and then recast when you can just pop this instant and it jumps back up?

Comment by 992714

hey as a well played (not an idiot) destro lock i'm wondering if i save mana on this its instant cast and can be used while moving (=great for pvp) should i just use this or recast immolate to keep the dot up and lose time and mana for about 8% more damage?

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Fel Flame

Fel Flame	Level 85

6% of base mana	40 yd range

Instant

Deals 279 Shadowflame damage to an enemy target, increasing the duration of Immolate or Unstable Affliction by 6 sec.

Spell Details

Duration

n/a

School

Fire, Shadow

Mechanic

n/a

Dispel type

n/a

GCD category

Normal

Cost

6% of base mana

Range

40 yards (Long)

Cast time

Instant

Cooldown

n/a

GCD

1.5 seconds

Effect #1

School Damage (Fire, Shadow)
Value: 2 (SP mod: 0.302)
PVP Multiplier: 1

Effect #2

Script Effect
Value: 7
PVP Multiplier: 1

Flags

Do Not Sheath

Fel Flame

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