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Comment by 7491

Does anyone know if spell damage applies to this bonus?

Comment by Carighan

Too limited by only working for physical attacks IMO (seeing you can get Dreamstate on the same tier, which is crucial for PvE power).
Nontheless, if your build has the points, take it - more raid utility is always good to have.

Comment by 40551

If you raid a lot, you may want to get this. Dual wielders, in particular, will appreciate it. If you group a lot with people who would benefit from this (id est, their +hit isn't capped), then you may want to consider it as well.

This talent could be decent for leveling with a melee or Hunter partner, as it would allow them to hit higher level targets, much as Balance of Power does for you.

Truthfully, though, most Balance Druids will skip this, since it's mostly useless in solo play and PvP. There are better places to put your points.

Comment by 24872

Is everyone absolutely sure "ranged" means hunters only? Aren't casters considered ranged dps as well?

Comment by Mith

This talent above all else is what gives Balance druids any semblance of raid utility. It helps tanks with threat generation, it helps most melee (dual wielding: rogues, enhancement shamen), and it also allows more freedom and flexibility with all of your physical damage dealers in swapping out their standard gear for more stamina or resist gear, depending on the appropriateness of the encounter, without totally gimping their chance to hit.

3/3 for any balance druid who wants to deserve a spot in a raid.

Comment by 111374

In wotlk, it will affect spell hit rating. of course it made no sense not including it before, but at least blizzard is finally giving some love to the boomkins. with balance of power, you get 7% off of the max to become hit capped. thats a lot of extra damage, crit, haste that can be added.

Comment by 219216

Talented in Balance Tree on 7th Tier costing 3 points.

Comment by 178074

Affects spell hit and spell crit now. Even if spell crit is only for YOUR spells, party/raid members may apreciate the talent and some raiding guilds may even ask you to get it. Considering you can cast it in Moonkin form with no mayor drawback, and that you can get some great procs from your own crits, it's a decently good talent (at least for PVE).

Comment by 9857

Very, very useful for city raids on faction leaders.

Comment by 224561

~~Faerie Fire(Rank 6): "Decrease the armor of the target by 1260 for 40 sec. While affected, the target cannot stealth or turn invisible."~~

New 3.1: Faerie Fire: "Decrease the armor of the target by 5% for 5 min. While affected, the target cannot stealth or turn invisible."

Lets see the Talent, it adds 2 more benefits to FF:
- "Your Faerie Fire spell also increases the chance the target will be hit by spell attacks by 3%."
- "Increases the critical strike chance of your damage spells by 3% on targets afflicted by Faerie Fire."

The first part affect all spells which land on the target, making a party/raid caster bonus. The Hit Chance wont stack with a Shadow Priest's Misery. Also, it will change your FF of FF Feral to an improved Version (altough the spell tooltip wont be updated).

The second part of the effect, it is a personal buff, increasing your crit chance by 3% for targets afflcted by FF (not sure if this works for FF Feral too, like if a cat or bear put his/her FF Feral and you get the bonus without casting your own FF).

Personal Note:
A PvE-Rading wise talent... A must-have, as you dont need to pull out a huge amount of HIT for pulls (most pulls are lvl 81 or 82 mobs), but you need a 17% HIT(before talents) for Bosses, you would only have to fill 10% HIT, which leaves a wide space for more crit,haste,int,spellpwr,etc... ofc, with a shadow priest, it can be expendable, but given the other benefit of the IFF, it is useful even if you dont use the HIT chance part of the talent.

The crit benefit can pull out more Moonkin regens (tasty DPM), Nature's Graces (Spell cast time reduced by 20% for 3 secs) and Eclipses (more tasty DPS). And a plus is that your physical DPS partners will have 5% Armor less to punch through.

With 3.1 changes, the talent has been somehow buffed. As you wont have to recast FF every 40 secs but every 5 mins (twice per average boss fight), it will give you a good boost in your DPS Rotation.

Edit: Given a more deep analysis of the talent.
Edit 2: Changed Tooltip to 3.1 version. Added further analysis from responses. Thnx for the help, keep feedbacking please!.

Comment by Maiya

"and increases the critical strike chance of your damage spells by 3% on targets afflicted by Faerie Fire."

Comment by 87497

Can anyone confirm if the 3% crit stacks with totem of wrath/ret pally 3% crit on boss? I've seen people that have said it does not but doesn't make sense to me that it wouldn't for its personal buff only.

Blue post has said this works for the 3% crit for feral faerie fire as well, just as long as there is some type of it up.

Comment by ataegina

I see people are talking about it affecting tanks' hit chance, while the spell description says

Your Faerie Fire spell also increases the chance the target will be hit by spell attacks by 3%.

Does it also work for melee or doesn't it?

Comment by oneru

Patch 3.1 supposed changes:
Faerie Fire and Faerie Fire (Feral) now reduces the armor of the target for 5 min. (Up from 40 sec) Duration remains 40sec in PvP. (Source: MMO-champion).

This would make this talent quite nice in my opinion. It gives a 5 minute armor debuff, a 5 minute +hit chance for casters and a 5 minute +crit chance for your own spells.
The 5 minute debuff makes it irrelevant for cast-rotations, so all in all, I think this will become a pretty nice talent if the change comes in 3.1. Might be worth it to cast this at the start of a fight instead of waiting for the Misery to come on.

Comment by breaker581

I see this as being useful for bosses, but not so much for trash mobs or PvP. Using this on every enemy player before engaging just for a little extra hit & chance to crit is going to make you go oom very quickly. These 3 talent points are better spent elsewhere for PvP balance druids.

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Improved Faerie Fire

Improved Faerie Fire

Your Faerie Fire spell also increases the chance the target will be hit by spell attacks by 3%, and increases the critical strike chance of your damage spells by 3% on targets afflicted by Faerie Fire.

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Physical

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None

Range

0 yards (Self)

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Instant

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n/a

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0 seconds

Effect #1

Apply Aura: Dummy
Value: 4
PVP Multiplier: 1
Server-side script
Affected Spells:

	Faerie Fire		Faerie Fire (Feral)		Faerie Fire (Feral)

Effect #2

Apply Aura: Modifies Effect #3's Value (23)
Value: 4
PVP Multiplier: 1
Affected Spells:

	Faerie Fire		Faerie Fire (Feral)		Faerie Fire (Feral)

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Improved Faerie Fire

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