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Comment by 38374

Pre level 60 this skill can be a total life saver.

Post 60 however, this skill needs to be reviewed.

With the amount of HP that Bears have at level 70 the amount of healing received from Frenzied Regeneration becomes almost trivial.

Not to mention druids lack the ability to take potions in forms, which this was supposed to make up for to some extent.

Comment by wingman

In the expansion they're removing the multiple ranks of this ability (that give different amounts of health per rage point) and replacing it with 1 rank. This one rank will heal you for 0.3% of your health per rage point, using 10 rage per second, for 10 seconds.

Not sure what health levels we'll have in the expansion yet. But raid buffed I have 25k hp. For me, popping this ability will give me 750 health per second, for 10 seconds = 7500 health. Basically one hit from a boss.

Currently, the top rank gives 25 health per rage, ie 250 health per second, or 2500 health.

Case closed :)

Comment by Propane

Converts up to 10 rage per second into health for 10 sec. Each point of rage is converted into 0.3% of max health.

So if you have 20,000 hp, this will be 60hp per rage, so 600 health a second for 10 seconds. Heals 6000 health over 10 seconds. Vast improvement, though this will require combat testing.

Comment by ADneo

i have 18k hps, when in bear dps gear, + FR glyph (20% more ehaling) it heals for 7700 hps, i saw it crit for 1000+
+tanking gear, 26k hp (only self buffed), it heals 9146, very not bad
Survival Instincts 1st Last Stand
Frenzied Regeneration 2nd last stand

Comment by Aranrya

My main question, thus far, is "Does Frenzied Regeneration still ignore +healing?" I don't see why they would change the mechanic, but from what I've heard, if you have the glyph, the +20% healing received actually works with the Frenzied Regen skill. Meaning after popping Survival Instincts, you're healing for about 9K over 10 seconds. It's just unreal. Is anyone else able to confirm both these for me: 1) Does FR still ignore +healing? 2) Does the Glyph of FR actually affect FR, increasing the amount of HP FR regenerates?

Comment by 136306

is this the thing with the animation like rejuv? cause i always saw bears do rejuv while not in casting form.. or is there a macro?

Comment by Corbis

I sometimes saw Druids in level 10-19 BGs cast rejuv in bear form, this was before Druids could use pots in forms, I moved the mouse over the buffs and it said rejuv, and rejuv animation, so dunno.. it was before you could use pots so it wasn't a rejuv pot, and this requires 36.

Comment by xpuntar

Is it intentional that alchemist stone's effect (+40% to healing) does not modify this skill?

Comment by AveryZan

I really love that they combined the old survival instincts and frenzied regeneration into one ability.

Comment by 83450

Sadly, the 30% health gain that used to be Survival Instincts now ONLY gives 30% to your max health, not to your current health.

No more using this as an emergency "OH SH--!" ability when solo (assuming you have the glyph) for the temporary extra health.

Comment by 629499

*does math* ... that's allot of 30's ._.

Comment by echospazz

Don't mean to be negative, but this ability is possibly the most overpowered ability in the game in terms of class self healing, not including Blood DKs in PvP. Any druid spec can pop into bear form, use a damage reduction cooldown (Barkskin, Survival Instincts), cast enrage and then use this ability and also be immortal.

Although, this ability can be countered quite easily, all you need to do, is to stop hitting them, get away from them, and if you are a class that can dispel enrage effects like Rogue (Shiv) or Hunter (Tranquilizing Shot), get rid of that enrage and then stun them, it renders them useless and practically wastes a powerful cooldown, also kiting and hard CCs are helpful too as well has any healing reduction effects.

No other class can really do what the druid class can do in term of this heal, other than warriors with Enraged Regeneration, but that has more requirements then druids and it can't be "prevented" as a druids can be.

It is getting changed in Mists to require 60 rage to activate and it converts your AP x 25 / 10 = how much health you get, and giving it a 1.5 sec cooldown. Hopefully this will reduce druid self healing to a more balanced level, because right now its practically a lay on hands for druids and takes 3+ dps to kill one feral druid with this buff on, and even then it takes a while.

Comment by LordVan

Cooldown is missing.

according to http://www.wowwiki.com/Frenzied_Regeneration it is 3min

Comment by rodalpho

The devs told us exactly how Frenzied Regeneration scales with gear at the link below.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/5889309137?page=186#3701

I'm pasting it here in case they retire the beta forums after release.

Frenzied Regeneration and Shield Barrier’s formulae have changed to:
Frenzied Regeneration at 60 rage: max(2*(AP-Agi*2), Sta*2.5)
Shield Barrier at 60 rage: max(2*(AP-Str*2), Sta*2.5)
-- Yes, these do mean that it uses your AP without base AP from Str/Agi (but does still slightly include AP from Agi/Str when you’ve got the 10% AP raid buff or other +%AP buffs).

Comment by Thottbot

WSG is PvP! if good in WSG then its good in PvP!

Comment by Thottbot

Lol yeah man...think when u type :D

Comment by Thottbot

bear + speed boots, then speed trinket :)

Comment by Thottbot

Omen of Clarity states then when you are in clearcaster state, the next move will require mo mana/energy/rage. Does this mean that you can use frenzied regeneration to the max, without using any rage, or will this not work?

Comment by Thottbot

I get what he says after about 10 minutes, he said something about laughing at a noob then blizz said instead of enrage, which we do have he's just retarded, give them frenzied regeneration. Or something like that.

Comment by Thottbot

So this gives you............ up to 1000 health over 10 seconds if your rage bar is maxed?

Comment by Thottbot

seems kinda low for a heal - espesially if u need a full bar for just 1000. that and draining a full bar of rage will leave a bear a bit helpless when it comes to using skills....~_~

maybe its just me but i think they need to lower the cool down by alot -maybe 1 min or increase the heals because this is used in bear form - the form with even more health.

Comment by Thottbot

I had some rage but I eated it..

and as far as I know this is NOT affected by +healing and I agree as well that it is far too weak for what it is, especially when having 16k HP @70 is not abnormal, using 100rage to heal only 2500 of it is very gimp.

Comment by Thottbot

this spell is designed for pve in multi mob soloing. go kitty form, tear something up, it runs away and aggros 2 others, they run away and aggro 5 others, you go bear form, take lots of damage, build up a full rage bar, use this and heal yourself for more than they hit you for, then swipe spam...in pvp/raids this is almost useless as thats ur entire rage bar gone for half of what the boss hits or about 3 secs of damage from a mage, rogue etc...

Comment by Thottbot

the reason for why this eats al your rage-if your tanking, theres no need for attacks-u just taunt and take damage while priests heal u

raitoryuzaki-70 all epic druid

Comment by Thottbot

cant you go enrage to get more rage, then you use frenzied regen? thats pretty good if you can.

Comment by Thottbot

ur stupid. you know that u get rage from attacking and get attacked?u still can use rage for attacks.

Comment by Thottbot

Use it if you finish a fight and you've got some rage left.
100 or 200 HP is pretty good when you get this spell, and your healers won't complain.

Comment by Allakhazam

all you need do is stay in bear form and have a priest heal while your group chain pulls. tanking makes your rage bar fill up alot quicker, and if all your doing is dd'ing, cat form is the way to go. But if you happen to be in a group in instances, where you will need to tank adds, using this skill while never reverting out of bear form does allow this skill to pay off nicely, and your healer will thank you, for being able to off tank and heal yourself simultaneously.

Comment by Allakhazam

great for pking or dueling. start off w/ the enrage ability or whatever i forgot, and then just don't use any of ur rage, cept maybe bash, and then when ur at 1/4 health u can get to about full? 1rage=10hp so 1000hp for a full ragebar. at 33 in bear form i got about 1800 hp, so its over half ur health back in 10 sec. don't even need to break ur form.. so good to use if ur low mana.

Comment by Allakhazam

i think that the cat form is the way to go if you are in either BFD or Stockades but every other instance you need to be in bear form or you will die or get others killed

Comment by Allakhazam

I was wondering if +healing gear and spec can increase the healing power you get from frenzied regeneration?

Edited, Feb 3rd 2007 5:04am by Myzm

Comment by Allakhazam

I don't know about you guys, but I never have more than enough Rage.

Comment by Allakhazam

warriors need an ability like this.

Comment by epictheepicest

I'm not sure if this ability is supposed to crit or not. The maximum it's supposed to tick for is 200hp per/10 rage, but I swear I've seen it tick for 300 sometimes.

Comment by elazar13

Excellent threat generation ability.

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Frenzied Regeneration

Frenzied Regeneration

Instant	3 min cooldown

Increases maximum health by 30%, increases health to 30% (if below that value), and

Glyph of Frenzied Regeneration
healing received is increased by 30%. Lasts 20 sec

converts up to 10 Rage per second into health for 20 sec. Each point of Rage is converted into 0.30% of max health.

Buff

Frenzied Regeneration

Maximum Health increased by 30%[and converting Rage into health.][and healing received increased by 0%.]
20 seconds remaining

Spell Details

Duration

20 seconds

School

Physical

Mechanic

n/a

Dispel type

n/a

GCD category

n/a

Cost

None

Range

0 yards (Self)

Cast time

Instant

Cooldown

3 minutes

GCD

0 seconds

Forms

Bear Form

Effect #1

Apply Aura: Periodic Dummy
Value: 31 every 1 second
PVP Multiplier: 1

Effect #2

Apply Aura: Increase Max Health - Stacks
Value: 31
PVP Multiplier: 1

Effect #3

Apply Aura: Mod Healing Taken - % (Arcane, Fire, Frost, Holy, Nature, Physical, Shadow)
Value: 1%
PVP Multiplier: 1

Flags

Is Ability
Do Not Sheath
Generates no threat
Aura Points On Client
Reset cooldown upon ending an encounter

Frenzied Regeneration

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