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Comment by 161457

Less fun on lvl 70 though.
He gets killed in like 10sec.

Comment by n4rt0n

maybe we should be able to use him as a regular pet(needing soulshard + demonic figurine) that would be nice =D

Comment by FateousMaximous

By Cheebeechoobza on 05/19/2009 (Patch 3.1.2)
Does this mean you can't use him to terrorize starting areas? If he comes enslaved and doesn't break that...
That's no fun.

Yeah I'll miss it too. Guess Goldshire is safer now though.

Comment by tugun

Does anyone else's Doom Guard have a Green skin?
i'll try to remember to get a SS when i have him out next.

Comment by tuckmuck203

24,000k

Somehow i doubt he has 4 times as much health as a city leader, or that your tank has but slightly less than that, i think you mean he has 24k, or 24,000, just to clarify.I uprated nonetheless because it was helpful

Comment by 29671

Hi there, would someone in cata beta reply to this if they know the answer...

Looking at the new tooltip for this spell they use the new curse-->bane nomenclature. It also doesn't mention the four person summon, death, etc. thing. It also doesn't mention a need to enslave it after some period...

Is this just a temporary pet you can call out now (like treants or non-improved water elemental for druids and mages) in ADDITION to your regular pet?

The most recent post said the spell is redesigned, I'm just wondering the full extend of the redesign.

Both the doomguard and infernal make it seem thats a possiblity now...? Maybe? :)

Just curious.

Thanks!

Comment by 638647

A Doom Guard would make a perfect pet for all time ise even though it may have some micro managment problems regardless of the fact that the Doom Guard needs new spells and ablilites.

Comment by Lindentree

Incidentally, if a warrior is sacrificed it counts as taking damage, not just health removal - you get a ~~nearly~~ full rage bar out of the deal.

Comment by Boshnak

Gone are the days of having a random party member killed to summon a Doomguard, ah.. I'll miss those. The good news is now we can just summon the demon without a group/proc. :)

Comment by zingar

as of the new patch this pet seems to have a lot of HP. as a level 80 naked warlock it had 25k hp. i only saw one attack which is "doom bolt" (couldnt find the link to that skill on this site, found some other doom bolts but they didnt seem to match). it was a 2 second cast spell that was just like a shadow bolt, and it hit for 800 damage (while im naked).
with pvp gear on (6000gs) the doomguard had 50k hp! the damage of its doom bolt still seemed to be quite low though. around 2.3k per bolt. crits were 150% not 200%.

it should also be noted that i was demo and had demonic pact and i also had fel armor on.

as of right now the infernal seems a much better option. it deals more damage, has just a little less HP. it has aoe and it comes with a stun (only thing is that the summoning its not an instant cast)

Comment by Shaitan051

Argh I'm taking serious damage gogo Summon Doomguard!
*Doomguard stare off into space*
Sic em Doomie!
*Doomguard picks nose*
Ow ow ow HELP ME!
*Doomguard points at enemy's debuffs*
...Seriously? Fine. gogo Bane of Agony!
*Doomguard hits once then walks back*
Oh come on! So it's gone, big deal. Ow ow ow GOGO BANE OF AGONY!
*Doomguard moves 3 yards then comes back*
Dammit you lazy jerk! Fine gogo Bane of Agony! gogo Corruption! gogo Curse of Elements! gogo Immolate! gogo Unstable Affliction! NOW HELP ME!
*Doomguard despawns*
*Lockinator dies a horrible death*
ARGH! I didn't think it was possible but you're even less useful now. At least Infernal still has my back... *Ominous lightning*

Comment by 381082

For all the destro locks, the Doomguard will also attack targets afflicted by your Bane of Havoc.

Comment by Bryrida

Should have a different icon, Doomguards don't look like Draenei very much...

Comment by Ty52

i remember i got this guy like 2 weeks before the pre-cata patch....he was so OP he pwned 5 guys at the same time in bg....now he´s MUCH less powerfull....in other words...completely nerfed spell....better tu summon infernal instead

Comment by 98254

Doomguard is cool because he stands in fire and laughs at petty movement mechanics.

Comment by Mindrot

I'm not certain this needs to be mentioned, but to clarify because it hasn't been mentioned here and there was a statement about it above:
When I Summon Doomguard, my pet does NOT despawn. I have both of them out beating up the mob. And, since the Doomguard will automatically attack whatever mob has "Bane of Doom" cast upon it, and Bane of Doom has a chance to summon an Imp tossing fire at said mob, I can, and have repeatedly, had three demons under my limited control at the same time.

Now, if only I could also wrangle a stray demon using Enslave without despawning my pet.

Comment by AWildmann

That is because he is considered a Guardian, you can have both a 'Pet' like our demons and a Guardian as Doomguard or Infernal up at the same time.

Comment by 200795

Doomguard damage is quite insane since 4.2 hit. My warlock is currently averaged 353 ilvl and his doomguard doom bolts crits up to 42k with usual 5man buffs :|

Comment by Orvos

In my opinion doomgaurds were more useful back in Wrath.. I remember almost killing somone every time right before saurfang when i would summon him. I miss all the spells he had like his warstomp and his 50% movement debuff, both were perfect for the bloodbeasts. But that was just about the only time you could use him. While i havent gotten the chance to actually test him out since 4.2 I have always preferred the infernal to him because his little baby doom bolts do next to no damage (before 4.2) while the infernal comes with an aoe stun and huge aoe dmg just for summoning him, and then he hits harder than the doomgaurd and has an AOE immolation aura. I really have missed his movement debuff as well as his warstomp though, but i guess demonolgy warlocks dont need more ways to stop people from moving the direction they want to ;). Lets all hope he becomes more useful now that they gave him some kind of a buff in 4.2

Comment by 734042

It's important to realise that the Doomguard 'snapshots' your stats at the time you summon him. Since he makes such a large contribution to your overall damage, you want to summon him with as many of the trinket/enchantment/etc buffs up as possible. For this reason, trinkets like Soul Casket are surprisingly good. However, he is not affected by metamorphosis, demon soul or time-warp.

Comment by clavarnway

Doomguard scales extremely well with Intellect, Spell Power and Mastery.

Doomguard begins to cast Doom Bolt
Doomguard Doom Bolt Baleroc 43358
Doomguard begins to cast Doom Bolt
Doomguard Doom Bolt Baleroc 43255
Doomguard begins to cast Doom Bolt
Doomguard Doom Bolt Baleroc 43540
Doomguard begins to cast Doom Bolt
Doomguard Doom Bolt Baleroc 43553
Doomguard begins to cast Doom Bolt
Doomguard Doom Bolt Baleroc *86928*

From a World of Logs kill.

Comment by Goats

The doomguard is practically the only thing that makes demo locks somewhat competitive in dps due to the fact that it gets huge buffs from pots, trinkets, and lightweave embroidery. But after the duration of the doomguard wears off, you'll see your dps drop down dramatically. This is pretty noticeable on bosses like ragnaros.

Still pretty hilarious to use moonwell challice, wait for dmc volcano to proc, lightweave embroidery to proc, and use a volcanic potion. You should be pulling 30-40k+ dps depending on well geared you are.

Comment by 648982

As mentioned above this cooldown does veery high damage for Demo warlocks. When summoned it takes snapshot from mastery and SP so one should use it when having all possible procs up.

This includes:
Summon Moonwell
Lightweave
Volcano
Volcanic Power
Power Torrent

When done so this will do closer to 1.5 million damage in BiS gear.

Comment by Iroared

According to a blue post, T13 2-piece bonus is going to increase the duration of Doomguard and Infernal by 15 seconds (45 to demonology), and decrease its cooldown by 4 minutes. Either they made a typo, or it will be highly overpowered for demonology and nearly useless for other specs.

Comment by NinjaLooterLoveU

Doomguard has a known bug that works well against them in pvp. The doomguard is quick to lose attention, aggro, and will stop attacking after the 1st target is dead, no mater how many are attacking the warlock. For hunters, just misdirect 1 time, and the doomguard is useless. The Summon Infernal is NOT bugged, and if you see one, should kill the warlock immediately to bring it down.

Comment by 485091

Just look at the screenshots and tell me you dont want this to be pimped !
It's stinks like vanilla.

Every random beast running around nowadays looks better than this fella.

Comment by Thottbot

Five man Warlock raids just got reaaally scary :P

Really, I can see this as a GREAT addition to any raid during the attack on the boss, especially if there's more than one of them. And if the enslave breaks? pft whatever, curse of shadow and banish are such easy and quick spells, pop em up and count to 30, you're good! run outa mana while blastin away at that boss? hah! just life tap and bandage yourself, banish that sucka till the end of the fight. Or reinslave...

Comment by Thottbot

i heard this doomgaurd have 3-4 times the dps then the doomguard from CoD(curse of doom). is this true? if it is it will be like a elite pet but it cost about 1g to summon and kill one of the party member too and also have 60min cooldown.

Comment by Thottbot

The last time i used ritual of doom to summon him, was in a simple ST run, and having recently gained this ability, i was happy to try it out... as the run had been going smoothly (being 60 helps)

The group was happy, and so we summoned him just before the prophet fight

I'll put it this way, the run went well until i got the stupid idea of summoning him...

After starting the ritual, of all the members to kill, it decided to kill our 1 and only rezer. Thankfully our priest was SS'ed, and i managed to CoS it and enslave it

priest rez'ed, buffed, and under 20 seconds from enslaving we attacked the boss fully ready

Tank was to MT, my DG was to OT...
The second the MT got into the aggro radius off the boss, my DG broke free and started wailing on me, bashed me down to 40% before i managed to re-enslave it

Sent it onto the other minion to act as an OT again, as was the plan, all while i bandaged up and got healed

Just as my doomguard was about to place his first blow and take aggro, he broke again and started heading back to me, bashed me to an inch of my life, just before i got the banish off

I believe the priest and the rogue were laughing so hard they almost fell off their chairs (ffs, throw me some help!), and we killed the two bosses off while keeping him enslaved

We then destroyed him promptly after.

Lets just say i haven't used that ritual of doom since, and doubt i ever will.

Infernal > Doomguard

Comment by Thottbot

i was done reading these notes earlyer but i never knew DG was so dangous.

i laught so hard reading some of these things lol.

and just when i thought that DG r good to summon lol.

Comment by Thottbot

I was wondering if Blizz has any plans on balancing the Doomguard to make it more beneficial to use? As it he's a cool pet but he has extremely limited usefulness, almost to the point where its not worth wasting the time and reagent to summon him.

As is, the only real use for a Doomguard is outdoor pvp raids, and thats only if the enemies you are fighting are mostly 10+ levels lower than you. While he has cool abilties, his usefulness in BGs is limited at best considering he can be enslaved and goes down rather fast to a group of 60s.

Considering you have to sacrifice a party memebers' life and spend 1g to summon him, you would think that he would at least stay enslaved for a garaunteed 10 min or so.

Its would be really nice if they made this pet actually useful considering the trouble you have to go thru to complete the quests and to summon him. (Quests are not hard but running DM and travelling to and from blasted lands takes time, as well as sacrificing a party member, not to mention that once he breaks he b-lines right at you)

Comment by Thottbot

its a chance... a pretty small chance of summoning doomguard... although it did freak me out when it did summon one :D

Comment by Thottbot

hey if Doomguard is mostly for fun, then just go to horde (or alli) starting/low level area and CoD all the low level guards and PVP noobs till u get a Doomguard then let it go on a rampage bu putting it on aggresive and when it breaks ether reenslave it or let it kill you and if you let it kill you just make sure u have a SS so u can rez and then just watch the slaughter.

Comment by Thottbot

if this thing is a real hero or a pain in the but,i dont care i am gonna get him anyhow

Comment by Thottbot

yarr somehow i clicked my own doom portal once...theres a few odd spots where you're in range but i havent been able to do it again. anyone know how?

and btw...even if the pet IS useless, the doom portal is still real cool looking and you dont need to be in a group to use it, just buy a demonic figurine once, its 90s (or 1g if you somehow managed to not get the rep by lvl 60).

Comment by Thottbot

I solo'd every quest to get my Doomgaurd. After finally getting it I went to Stormwind and Started the summon for the Doomgaurd. I asked for help and people magically assumed what they were helping with was the Ritual of Souls to recieve a Healthstone. But as a larger and larger crowd gathered and the summoning happened, panic was EVERYWHERE! for some reason, no one had expected that giant beast. I just /laugh.
So, what i see the only good coming from this spell and more is for Warlock Lottery (Having guildmates help summon, winner is whoever randomly dies, they win the gold) and just to cause destruction on the allience. I would have rolled horde.

~ZombieFace
65 Warlock, PvP, Altar of Storms

Comment by Thottbot

You summon the doomguard through the ritual SS yourself as you are the one needing to enslave. Then you walk into a lowbie town and summon an infernal. Once this is acomplished the Doomguard will break free and turn on you. Just let it kill you. Once you die the infernal and doomguard now at full potential as they are no longer under the enslavement will make fun work of whatever town you have left them in. Rez right before they die and move in with your buddies.

Comment by Thottbot

omg this sounds like such sadistic fun!

Comment by Thottbot

Confirmed: You receive no Armor Durablity lost if you are the sacrificed in the summon.

Comment by Thottbot

I've just a question... our's pet HP increases depending on our stamina or our intellect?

Comment by Thottbot

its from a quest.

This is just a fun party trick, nothing more. I use the DG to freak out and kill lowbies, and thats about it. GG bliz

Comment by Thottbot

This is by far the least used lock summen it is not even worth the trouble.....but boy can it be fun "RAID ON GOLDSHIRE" 1 lock one DG and a lot of dead alli

Comment by Thottbot

kk if you all are so worried about the quest line, and the reagent cost, and the killing of 1 party member. then why in the world would you not simply use the curse.

And since this is a trophy pet, its not supposed to be very reliable.

The only useful thing i could possibly see using this for is going to goldshire and using it to maim innocent noobs....and (risky) grinding.

Comment by Thottbot

ok, so to give a comparison my buddy and I, both demo spec'd, had a felgaurd duel an enslaved Doomguard. We both have gear that are fairly matched with each other. In the end they both came down at the same rate. The match ended in a tie more or less because the felgaurd died with the doomgaurd at < 5% health. I think without cripple the felgaurd would have won.

Comment by Thottbot

Note: if you cast ritual of doom in a city (easiest place to get volunteers) make sure you do it a *long* way from any guards. I cast it in IF and the guards killed it before I was able to finish enslaving it.

Also, since the ritual is guaranteed to kill a random one of the participants (zero durability damage tho), you should make sure you have a priest/shaman/pally/druid rezzer nearby, and if that healer is participating in the ritual also have them soulstoned in case they're the one who dies.

Comment by Thottbot

Had my share of fun with this spell during an MC run... Popped Curse of Doom on Shazzrah, and fortunately it procced and killed the boss which was the last element of the fight. Then the DG appeared and people started screaming on Ventrilo, unable to figure out what was suddenly attacking the raid! Hilarious!

Comment by Thottbot

What I do is, I go to Crossroads, get 5 people, tell them I'll run them through something, and cast the ritual.
When one of them dies, I banish the thing and yell "Hit the Doomguard for free weapon skills! When I have 10 beating on him, or so, I hellfire myself to death, and watch him slaughter the lowbies, when guards aggro, he 3 shots them. It's great.

Comment by Allakhazam

It would be so fun to get 5 friends and summon four in Org. :D

Chaos...pure chaos.

Comment by Allakhazam

Just a thought...

Would the Doomguard be useful in a high level raid boss fight? If you CoS then Enslave to make it last longer... i would think the Doomguards CRIPPLE ability would reduce a bosses effectiveness.

I imagine gathering the group for the fight pre-agro. Summon the Doomguard. Rez the person who was sacraficed (+heal), then engage the boss.

Or to save more time, start the fight and battle rez the person who was sacraficed.

As long as your MT and Healers don't participate in the summoning ritual, wouldnt they be safe?

Another thought...

If in a RAID with multiple locks, summon the Doomguard, cast CoS while other locks cast CoD... THEN Enslave. Send it at the raid boss with the MT. You now have a 1 minute death timer on the Doomguard, but during that 1 minute, the BOSS would be crippled due to the Doomguards help.

What do you think? If CoS persists after enslaving, i would think CoD would also.

Comment by Allakhazam

The "dude's name in Tainted scar of the blasted lands is "Daio the decrepit", loc 35,59, which is NW of the path into tainted scar.

The 2 preq quests are:
The prison's bindings -go to dire maul in ferals recover 15 satyr blood from the wildspawn in the warpwood quarter.

the prisons' casings: Travel to darkwhisper gorge in winterspring, recover 5 tears of the hederine from the hederine demons.

Edited, Wed Feb 1 17:10:55 2006

Comment by Allakhazam

I'd also like to know just what happens to the character who gets sacrificed. Does he die and have to Rez, or is it like a Polymorph effect?

Comment by Allakhazam

Will this summon ever randomly select the Warlock that summoned it? I'd hope not, as there would be no one able to charm it afterwards (unless maybe a soulstone is used).

Comment by Allakhazam

the enslave doesn't really last that long and it's even shorter the next time you enslave.
Got one of these and used it for 10 seconds, then I had to kill it.

Comment by Allakhazam

i think it would be cooler if the person who gets sacraficed becomes the Doomguard but cant controle what he does

Comment by Allakhazam

Character Dies and needs to be rezed back ... it randomly chooses the person for sacrafice. Found off Doomgaurds Commmanders and Dreadlords in the Blasted Lands

Comment by Allakhazam

Will this summon ever randomly select the Warlock that summoned it? I'd hope not, as there would be no one able to charm it afterwards (unless maybe a soulstone is used).

yes

Comment by Allakhazam

Edited, Sat Jan 29 16:12:47 2005

Comment by Allakhazam

It can be farmed. See Grimoire of Doom Thu Mar 10 08:20:12 2005

Comment by Allakhazam

The perfect group to summon one of these in is 2 warlocks(just in case a warlock dies and the doomguard has to be enslaved) 2 preists(just in case a preist dies and needs to be rezed) and a mage to polymorph the doomguard when the enslavement timer is up) icant wait for this ability
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"welcome to orgrimmar. Have you come to serve the Horde?"-Thrall

Comment by Allakhazam

you go to one of the race starting places then you summon the doomguard and just leave him there so when all the new chars start there the doomguard gets them. =)

Comment by Allakhazam

I cant wait to get this lvl and do this

Comment by Allakhazam

The Doomguard is for:
1) High level instances
2) Random acts of violence in low level areas
3) Going to the opposing faction's main town with a raid party of 40 and summoning 8 of them without enslaving for total chaos. (You have to train them in to Orgrimmar or Stormwind for better results,though.)
4) Harrasing random idiots by saying you have to summon someone with 5 people instead of 3.....

So you see, it has many proctical and fun applications in the real world today.

Comment by Allakhazam

To the lvl 10 that got pwned by the Doomlord: getting killed by the opposite side does not damage gear so the rep that you had to pay for was already there. (or else PvP would be to expensive even for the extreme hardcore players!)

Comment by Allakhazam

OK I was walking in the tram with my level 10 warlock and THAT attacked me. I didnt have time to run into the portal to go back to IF before I died. sending these things after lowbies is NOT cool! if I knew the person's name who did this id demand they pay my gear repair =/

Comment by Allakhazam

IS this a dropped spell or something?

Any ideas where to get it?

Comment by Allakhazam

got this tonight, off a dreadlord.

Requires a full group, kills random party member with durability loss(soon to be patched and fixed)

Summons Doomguard(aggroed) Best to COS then Enslave him, it lasts longer.

Comment by Allakhazam

why would you even want this except for pvp maybe, wouldnt it just be better to cast curse of doom on mobs untill you get your doomguard. doesnt seem worth it when curse of doom dont involve killing party member and is trainer bought, and this requires hard quest to do. even if you are in pvp raid, you could just cast curse of doom on guards and still get your doom guard, it only says it cant be casted on players.

Comment by Allakhazam

its a warlock quest series given by a dude inside the tainted scar - to the farwest - turn rgt as soon as you enter the scar - must do 2 quest pre req's

https://www.wowhead.com/cata/npc=620031

Edited, Fri Sep 30 11:02:32 2005

Comment by Allakhazam

is doomguard that gimp?

Comment by Allakhazam

I wonder why this is even in the game. Just for showoff I hope cause its totally useless to a group. As a warlock I would never want to sacrifice a group member just to have a doom guard by my side (which I would have to waste lots of shards on to control).

Its like you have a candy store in your little town, but its never open or they dont let you in.

Go figure...

Comment by Allakhazam

If you do this ritual in a BG does the player that gets sacrificed respawn at the graveyard (or is the player able to respawn in any way) before the BG starts?

Comment by Allakhazam

SO I enter WSG waiting for the battle to start. It was my first time in since TBC so I tried the Soul Well and it did summon but no one was able to get a master healthstone so I was like WTH and I did ritual of doom hahaha. I got me doomguard, people were like WTF, NICE! (other warlocks of course), ROFL, LOL, OMFG, and "WTH IS THAT THING" (c'mon buddy... your a level 69 and your asking wth a doomguard is). SO yeah I had my 4 min of glory in the battle grounds. After the hour cooldown was up I tried summoning a doomguard again on another BG and some guy is like "click for healthstone" thinking it was ritual of souls.... NOT!... hahaha got me Doomguard again and this time I camped the alliance grave yard mawhahahaha. It's about time the horde camped some GY. On my server camped grave yards (before TBC BGs sucked on Turalyon since the alliance would camp the GY :( ). Btw we capped the flag twice while me and another lock (64) camped the GY (Doomguard FTW!).

-level 70 Orc Warlock turlayon

Edited, Feb 9th 2007 9:53am by ScarsBD

Comment by RecurveN

This spell is now available from the quest Suppression from Daio the Decrepit in Classic. Not sure when it was made available, or if it was always available. I thought it was supposed to be added in a later phase, but I just picked it up today in phase 2.

Comment by kurji

Doomguard's abilities:
Cripple

War Stomp
Dispel Magic

For the best walkthrough/info blast I've read for this quest/minion, you can read this Warcraft Tavern article by Furious.

Comment by spoonman184

#somechanges

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Summon Doomguard

Summon Doomguard
80% of base mana

Instant	10 min cooldown

Summons a Doomguard to fight beside you for 45 sec.

The Doomguard will assist you by attacking the target which is afflicted by your Bane of Doom or Bane of Agony spell.

Spell Details

Duration

n/a

School

Shadow

Mechanic

n/a

Dispel type

n/a

GCD category

Normal

Cost

80% of base mana

Range

0 yards (Self)

Cast time

Instant

Cooldown

10 minutes

GCD

1.5 seconds

Effect

Trigger Spell

	Summon Doomguard

Flags

Cannot be used while shapeshifted
Not In Arena

Summon Doomguard

Buff

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