Quick Facts

Screenshots

Videos

Comments

Comment by WildW

PvP talent, helps pounce as a opener getting up to a 4 sec stun, and getting you more time when Bashing -> heal.

Comment by 21328

Yeah, but as a pve talent this is quite useless.

Comment by Kaitain

Agreed it is completely a PvP talent. If you are a PvPing feral it's almost essential.

That extra second of stun facilitates some nice stuff. You can often get in 2 shreds after a pounce instead of 1 (assuming you also have the Omen of Clarity talent), which in turn will gives you more combo points to follow it up with a worthwhile length Maim. By doing that you can take 4-5k off an enemy player and they are still stunned. A great opener. This is very hard to do without Brutal Impact.

The extra duration of Bash is very handy too for bash, s-shift, cyclone, heal type moves.

Comment by 73809

If you are Feral specced and have Ferocity (5/5), Brutal Impact (2/2), and Shredding Attacks (2/2), this would be the best ability rotation:

Pounce
Faerie Fire (Feral)
Trinket
Mangle
Shred

An ideal spec (at 70) for this would be: https://www.wowhead.com/cata/talent=0zZxGGsfroezioVxhz

Comment by ADneo

i think due to Mangle changes to 34 energy with talents, this talent will no longer be needed

but we need to wait and see how they changed new energy regeneration and than deside

Comment by Sandos

Brutal impact now also reduces the cooldown of Bash by 15/30 sec.

Which is a huge boost.

Comment by 88768

I will be dropping this tallent. Bash is a great ability, but i'm finding too many people immune, even to to the 3 sec spell interupt. That spell silence is actually kind of lame, it will only get applied if the mob is not immune to bash, and it will start its 3 secs when bash stuns for 4 secs. I can use those tallent points in other areas.

If you dont believe try bash on kael in h.mgt. plenty of time to bash his fireball cast, but it comes out as immune.

Comment by 463824

Great for PvP and questing in cat form, however it's implications while tanking are neither high nor low. To take the full talent you will be able to interrupt more frequently, however interrupt is more of a dps job. As a bear tank you wont have a lot of time to sit and watch for cast bars, you need to be switching targets constantly to keep the mangles up on targets as well as spamming swipe and lacerate. To relax either of those to watch for a spell and time out a bash is asking for some kind of threat slip. Primary job of a tank is keeping threat, not interrupting spells.

I'd find it more of an attractive PvE dps cat talent if it helped with maim in some way for instance/raid spell cast interrupt, because the stun for pounce is a waste of energy for a small bleed effect, which rake is better for, and the wasted time of stealthing up to pounce also counts against dps.

Comment by Tripster

So all in all, for a cat, this would be restricted to PvP uses. I guess the extra second might matter, as it makes pounce match the stun duration a rogue's cheap shot. The extra damage is neglegible, as it's spaced over 18 seconds.
Edit: To clarify, I meant the 18 sec bleed DoT

Comment by 175315

Only 10 sec. Bash CD reduction? Q_Q
At least, its better against casters, but I loved to stun every 30 sec.

Comment by wye43

Anyone knows if the increased mana cost is applied by Skull Bash with this talent even if there was no actual spell casting interrupted?

Comment by 117271

Skull Bash for both Bear and Cat can be used as a 13yard charge.
Interesting to use against warriors (so that they can't charge you), closing a gap vs. a hunter, or anyone trying to get away.
Useful in PvE as well, close the gap between you and the boss (assuming they aren't relying on you to interrupt!)

Interrupting a spellcast should be it's primary use, but still.

Links

Brutal Impact

Brutal Impact

Talent

Increases the stun duration of your Bash and Pounce abilities by 1 sec, decreases the cooldown of Bash by 10 sec, decreases the cooldown of Skull Bash by 50 sec, and causes victims of your Skull Bash ability to have 10% increased mana cost for their spells for 10 sec.

Spell Details

Duration

n/a

School

Physical

Mechanic

n/a

Dispel type

n/a

GCD category

n/a

Cost

None

Range

0 yards (Self)

Cast time

Instant

Cooldown

n/a

GCD

0 seconds

Effect #1

Apply Aura: Modifies Buff Duration (1)
Value: 1.001 seconds
PVP Multiplier: 1
Affected Spells:

	Bash		Pounce

Effect #2

Apply Aura: Modifies Cooldown (11)
Value: -9.999 seconds
PVP Multiplier: 1
Affected Spells:

	Bash

Effect #3

Apply Aura: Modifies Cooldown (11)
Value: -49.999 seconds
PVP Multiplier: 1
Affected Spells:

	Skull Bash		Skull Bash

Flags

Is Ability
Passive spell
Aura is hidden
Cast time is hidden

Brutal Impact

Buff

Spell Details

Related

Contribute