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Comment by kreghx

I like this talent , ultimate talent for a Two-Hander, You get instant hit with +dmg , and against shamans , paladins , Priests. if you are a two-hander i would say TAKE THIS ;) how slower weapon how better this talent. Cooldown not long , when cooldown gone you got another 30 rage good luck with it

Comment by 8182

Ultimate healer gimper. If you're fighting a paladin who you know is about to use his divine shield to heal himself, use mortal strike immediately before he does so. This should cut back on the amount of HP he heals himself by a large amount (this also goes for any other healer, of course) and should give you a pretty neat advantage.

Comment by 10602

To get the most out of MS (ie the largest numbers) you'll be looking for a weapon with a very high maximum damage value. Good examples are the Whirlwind Axe, Kang the Decapitator, and pretty much all of the HWL 2hers, which are much more easily available.

Generally, that will be a big, slow 2-hand weapon.

Comment by 82665

It can be said without exaggeration that this is one of the most powerful Arena abilities in-game. Also useful in Bg's, soloing, and raids. Really, one of the defining talents of a Warrior.

Comment by 111368

Does this thing have an animation besides the blood flying squishy sound like rend?

Comment by 154168

If you are going against the twin emperors in Ahn'Qiraj and they get to close too each other just spam this and that will greatly decrease their healing they got... So good especially in PvP

Comment by 163660

I was surprised that there isn't much QQ about this ability on WoWhead.

Comment by 345278

I have a question:
Does its antiheal debuff stack with another warriors' mortal strike, or other classes antiheal debuffs, like Wound Poison?

Comment by 392327

how to get the MS rank 1?

Comment by Titan

MORTAL STRIKE, HOOOOOOO!

Comment by Oakenshadow

Anyone know if this is modified by any melee damage?

Comment by Hairband

This description is for players at 85. What about scaling from level 10 and up? And does gear change the % and increase of damage by the X? Because my 85 warrior has different numbers (higher actually) altogether.

More information is needed on this spell at this time because I believe not even at 85 is Mortal Strike's damage a constant.

Comment by 639556

I don't have a warrior so I can't answer your later questions, but as to scaling:

Look at the top of the page, where the skill is described. Just under the tooltip, there should be a slider bar. Simply drag this along, and the description will change level (all the way to the seemingly pointless description at level 1).

Comment by 620131

No, it's still vague. And healers have great mana regen for every healing spec. So mana is never really a problem.

Ghostcrawler said:
We’ve been considering whether healing is too strong in PvP anyway. You may have noticed that we made the tooltips for Mortal Strike and equivalent debuffs intentionally vague for 4.1. As I write this, those debuffs are still at 10% healing, but we’re concerned that healing is too hard to counter and we might change that number. Changing it back to 50% would probably lead to the Mortal Strike debuff being mandatory for Arena comps again, but we never got much of a chance to see its effects at say 20%. A 20% Mortal Strike debuff could easily counter any excessive healing caused by 200% crits.

So yes, blizzard does think 10% is too low.

Comment by Kalimu

Does anyone know if these "reduce healing by 10%" effects now stack? since they got so nerfed...

Comment by WyvernVJ

Buffs and debuffs map (5.4.2)

Buffs

Stats
Effect: +5% Strength, Agility, and Intellect
Brought by: Any Druid (Mark of the Wild), any (), and any Paladin (Blessing of Kings).

Stamina
Effect: +10% Stamina
Brought by: Any Priest (Power Word: Fortitude), any Warlock (), and any Warrior (Commanding Shout).

Attack Power
Effect: +10% melee and ranged attack power
Brought by: Any Death Knight (Horn of Winter), any Hunter (Trueshot Aura), and any Warrior (Battle Shout).

Spell Power
Effect: +10% spell power
Brought by: Any Mage (Arcane Brilliance/Dalaran Brilliance), any Shaman (Totemic Wrath), and any Warlock ().

Haste
Effect: +10% melee and ranged haste
Brought by: Frost and Unholy Death Knights (Improved Icy Talons), any Rogue (), and Enhancement Shamans ().

Spell Haste
Effect: +5% spell haste
Brought by: Balance Druids (Moonkin Aura), Shadow Priest (Shadowform), and Elemental Shamans (Elemental Oath).

Critical Strike
Effect: +5% ranged, melee, and spell critical chance
Brought by: Guardian and Feral Druids (Leader of the Pack), windwalker s () and any Mage (Arcane Brilliance/Dalaran Brilliance).

Mastery
Effect: +3000 mastery
Brought by: Any Paladin (Blessing of Might), and any Shaman ().

Debuffs

Weakened Armor
Effect: -12% armor
Brought by: Any Druid (Faerie Fire), any Rogue (Expose Armor), and any Warrior (Sunder Armor).

Physical Vulnerability
Effect: +4% physical damage taken
Brought by: Frost and Unholy Death Knights (Brittle Bones and Ebon Plaguebringer), Retribution Paladins (), and Arms and Fury Warriors (Colossus Smash).

Magic Vulnerability
Effect: +5% spell damage taken
Brought by: Any Rogue (Master Poisoner), and any Warlock (Curse of the Elements).

Weakened Blows
Effect: -10% physical damage done.
Brought by: Blood Death Knights (Scarlet Fever), Feral and Guardian Druids (Thrash and ), Brewmaster s (), Protection or Retribution Paladins (Hammer of the Righteous), any Shaman (Earth Shock), any Warlock (), and any Warrior (Thunder Clap).

Slow Casting
Effect: -50% casting speed (-25% on players)
Brought by: Any Death Knight (Necrotic Strike), Arcane Mages (Slow), any Rogue (Mind-numbing Poison), and any Warlock ().

Mortal Wounds
Effect: -25% healing received
Brought by: Arms or Fury Warriors (Mortal Strike and ), any Rogue (Instant Poison), any Hunter (Widow Venom), and Windwalker s ().

Note: Buffs and debuffs provided by pets, profession perks, items and any other NPC are left out on purpose.

Comment by grimlin2

Wait Wait Wait Wait Wait Wait... + 100% spell power... WHAT?

Comment by Thottbot

You get it through the talent tree,arms,put all your points in there and at 40 you place a point into Mortal strike,and its all yours.

Comment by Thottbot

Skills will be lost when you unlearn.

Comment by Thottbot

Here's a step guide from basic.

1. Use 30 points in Arms line.
2. Use the 1 point in Mortal Strike (At the very bottom of the Arms talent tree)
3. Go to a trainer and learn Lvl 2/3 w/e.

(To clear up an earlier misconception; you don't have to have 40 points in arms, just 30. What he meant is to be LEVEL 40)

Comment by Thottbot

To get mortal strike u will need to get 30 points in arms tree including one point in sweeping strikes. The tree is pretty self explanatory in it self as it says what is requiered to get the talent when u hold ur pointer over it.

A personal suggestion is to read the wow forums about how to build the type of warrior u want during ur lvling. Thus u won't have to spend extra cash in rebuilding when u get to lvl 60.

It might be wise to build ur warrior in arms exclusevely until u get MS, rather than dividing ur talent points between the trees, if ur planning on an MS build for ur warrior. Having mortal strike sure helps in the grinding process as u will kill mobs faster, thus making xp/s increase.

Comment by Thottbot

Just wanted to clarify the effect of Mortal Strike. I'm only lv 24, so I'm trying to see what it would do. Am I right that it is NOT like a shield bash (regarding the reduced healing) because you do not have to press the button as the enemy might begin to heal. Rather, with this, you might use it towards the end of the fight, and it would be like (execute+rend) that hurts them a great deal and would inhibit any healing the enemy might LATER do (up to 10 seconds later). Is this right? Is it pretty handy?

Comment by Thottbot

well i usually use this cuz its an instant attack. and with my ice barbed spear i hit for at least 300 on every hit with that... on crits i can get it up on over 1200 :)

the other stuff about healing is just a bonus :)

Comment by Thottbot

How can this be dispelled/removed?

Comment by Thottbot

Well, the only way it can really be dispelled is if you are a mage and you cast iceblock.

There is no way to get rid of the healing debuff otherwise.

Comment by Thottbot

By far any PvP warriors bread and butter, gives you an extra atk + makes your enemies weaker, UNLESS you are a protection spec for PvE tanking you are nothing w/out this skill

Comment by Thottbot

Is this worth it for 31 talent or should I go to protection and get concussion blow instead?

Comment by Thottbot

Being a 60 warrior...I've tried every tree out. Here is my input

Arms - Mortal Strike Mortal Strike is the most powerful warrior move and requires a slow 2 handed weapon preferrably speed 3.20 or slower. My suggestion...spec Mortal Strike once you have a decent 2 hander of 50 dps or higher and speed 3.20 or slower
Fury - Bloodthirst Bloodthirst is a move that can be used with any weapon preferrably dual wielding with a main hand weapon 2.20 speed or slower and an offhand of 2.00 speed or faster. Though the heal involved with this move is weak...it has saved me in the past. Anyone can go with Bloodthirst.
Protection - Shield Slam I wouldn't reccomend speccing shield slam unless you are ready to be balls to the wall tanking for raiding purposes. I did have some fun tanking in MC with Shield Slam however often critting for 1k+. The 1k crits don't compare to my Mortal Strike and Bloodthirst crits however often twice as much. The one thing that is nice about protection is that your executes aren't affected by weapon so you still do the same execute damage relatively (i.e. me critting Gehennas with a Timeworn Mace and shield for 3684 back in my noob days :P)

In all....Mortal Strike is for big big hits, Bloodthirst is for decent damage and a small heal, and Shield Slam is for medium damage and threat. Hopefully you can make a decision based on this info though this does only apply to level 40+ players. :)

Comment by Thottbot

Which is better this or death wish? I noticed this costs quite alot of rage, but if its making big crits is it worth missing death wish for?

Comment by Thottbot

i finally hit 40+ and re-spec'd my warrior and now have mortal strike. someone please tell me how i inflict this? Its not an icon that i click? Its a 'talent' so does it comes up randomly?
Sorry for my noobiness. I usually miss out on the intricacies of games cuz I'm too busy just killing things.

Comment by Thottbot

never ever spec to protection if you are not lvl60 who is going to tank. Id say fury is the best for leveling and dps dealing, arms for pvp and its ok at everything. Only thing why I hate protection is the long fights, killing a mob takes about 4 times more time than with fury or arms. I have tried arms twice, protection twice, and now Im going to spec to fury after I get my Blackfury..

Comment by Thottbot

Well Ap affects weapon dmg so yeah but no it doesnt affect this directly, Now if u want more damage with it just get improved Mortal strike which really is a waste of talent points but if you use it alot why not.

Comment by Thottbot

Does mortal strike give you a chance to crit for higher then normal or is it just a base on you attack power like everything else?

Comment by Thottbot

Question:
If I get this, and buy the mortal strike 2, then respec somthing, then come back to mortal strike, do I have to rebuy mortal strike 2?

Comment by Thottbot

frostbolt does no way crit higher. word

Comment by Thottbot

for the warr class Fury is the best for grinding,
prot warr is prob the most boring thing 2 be so im fury so i dont need 2 tank,
and for pvp a giant 2hander is the best for warr

Comment by Thottbot

Does this, with sweeping strikes, give all players/mobs you hit the heal debuff? I really want to try sweeping strikes out as a cornerstone in PvP, but I just dont know whats best, SS + cleave, or SS+MS. Any thoughts?

EDIT: the debuff wont effect all, just the primary target. :( did some research

Comment by Thottbot

Since patch 2.3 MS healing effect cannot be dispelled.
So take that Pallys!

Comment by Thottbot

when you have 3+healers turtling the flag,

this is a must in WSG

Comment by Thottbot

Mortal Strike isn't that bad at all for leveling as arms. It's an instant attack not on your normal swing. Basically if you're building rage just mortal strike, auto attack, mortal strike.

If you got rage and want to dump out DPS. Go berserker then mortal strike, whirlwind, slam, and repeat.

Comment by Thottbot

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you have a lot of rage then you can't go berserker then mortal strike because mortal strike requires battle stance. Switching from berserker stance to battle stance would get rid of all but 25 of your rage (at most), so as a rage dump this is kind of pointless. And you get the same problem when, like you suggested, you try to do Whirlwind after the Mortal Strike, because whirlwind requires berserker stance, so you'd have to switch stances yet again.

Comment by Allakhazam

Where can i become mortal strike level 1?

Comment by Allakhazam

it's nice thing :)

Comment by Allakhazam

Uhm....

Comment by Allakhazam

It is in your Arms skill tree. You have to spend like 20 talent points in arms to get it.

Good luck

Comment by Allakhazam

LOL PEW PEW

Comment by Allakhazam

ciao!

Comment by Allakhazam

Y is this cool?

-The Great Rikabu-WarChief of the DDF

Comment by Allakhazam

Wtf?

Comment by Allakhazam

because it can stop healers in their track on healing themselvs in pvp for them only getting 50% of thier hp up at a cost of alot of mana then you can give them a lot more digs. That coupled with pummel and shield slam makes all the differance for you have stopped them useing spells in that same spell pool

Comment by remmas

you need 30 mins using auto attack to use this ability

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Mortal Strike

Mortal Strike	Level 85

Talent

20 Rage	Melee Range

Instant cast	4.5 sec cooldown

A vicious strike that deals 80% weapon damage plus 423 and wounds the target, reducing the effectiveness of any healing received for 10 sec.

Buff

Mortal Strike

Healing effects received reduced by 25%.
10 seconds remaining

Spell Details

Duration

10 seconds

School

Physical

Mechanic

n/a

Dispel type

n/a

GCD category

Normal

Cost

20 Rage

Range

5 yards (Combat)

Cast time

Instant

Cooldown

4.5 seconds

GCD

1.5 seconds

Effect #1

Apply Aura: Mod Healing Taken - % (Arcane, Fire, Frost, Holy, Nature, Physical, Shadow)
Value: -24%
PVP Multiplier: 1

Effect #2

Normalized Weapon Damage
Value: 95
PVP Multiplier: 1

Effect #3

Weapon Damage - %
Value: 81
PVP Multiplier: 1

Flags

Is Ability
Cannot be used while shapeshifted
Do Not Sheath
Initiates Combat (Enabled Auto-Attack)
Discount Power On Miss
Requires main hand weapon
Aura Points On Client
Not In Spellbook Until Learned

Mortal Strike

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