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Comment by Coocks

Did anyone find out where do you get this? Vendor, book or discovery?

Comment by 491667

Either this is a typo, or it is something that us Death Knights may have to work around should this be in use.

I would have expected this to be a boost to give 20% HP in Blood, but that would make us way too overpowered in PvP. So this may very well not be a typo.

I see this as we may have to switch away to a different presence to use Death Strike in emergencies and then quickly revert to Blood. That is the only viable usage of this glyph as far as I can see.

At least, the above is speaking for my fellow Blood Death Knights. As far as Frost or Unholy PvP specs go, this will make it so that we also get a huge bonus for self-healing when necessary.

So then, I would say glyph this if you use anything other than a Blood-related spec for PvP.

Comment by 100447

It seems to me like not switching into Blood Presence when being in troubles anymore....15% HP heal is very solid help to your healer. (pvp POV ofcourse)

Edit: spelling
Edit2: after nerf

Comment by KieranM17

Here's a small table to work out Health gained per Death Strike!

Max Health = Heal
100k = 20k
105k = 21k
110k = 22k
115k = 23k
120k = 24k
125k = 25k
130k = 26k
135k = 27k
140k = 28k etc etc

I can see this getting a nerf, as the self-healing is through the roof, especially for PvP

Comment by Yukazi

I'm curious about Blood in Frost Presence for PvP.

Death Strike (Improved / Glyphed / Mastery)

Add in that:

If Death Strike is used while a Blood Shield is already active, the new absorb will stack with the old one instead of replacing it.

We're going to be seeing some massive healing / absorbs from Death Knights.

Comment by 355194

I like this glyph, this gives Unholy a new Major that can help from various situations, sense the only glyphs Unholy can use effectively are Anti Magic Shell, Blood Boil & Pestilence, and I personally rarely used Blood Boil as Unholy. This glyph will make using Death Strike in Unholy helpful as enemies at 85 hit hard, and Death Knights need ways to heal, this will help.

Comment by 614930

learned from trainer

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Comment by Aera

This is absolutely fantastic and mind blowing. Be a Blood DK in Frost Presence and have this glyph. I am only 333 average item level and I'm able to get 60k Blood Shields. If you're in big trouble then pop Empower Rune Weapon and spam some more Death Strikes and have a Blood Shield more than 100k if you are fast enough. I hope this doesn't get nerfed, I'm invincible against melee opponents :D

Edit: Typo & more links for you convenience.
Edit # 2: I just did an experiment to see how high I could get it on a dummy. It caps at your max health. I just went into Unholy Presence and death striked when my shield timer was at 1. You can continue stacking Blood Shield easily if you want to re-strike the target just before your shield timer runs out. Took me about 10 seconds to cap it.

Sadly my comment is no longer valid, and it out of date. My words were for when it did not require a kill for the minimum 20%. It's still quite useful, but no longer incredibly op.

Comment by Rekra

As a blood dk, I'd like to know if it would be worth switching from blood to unholy presence to get a death strike off in case i need extra healing. Feedback appreciated :)

Comment by Psychotic

Oddly enough, when I learnt this I couldn't find it on my Glyphs tab. Anyone else having this issue? Even after searching it I can't find it.

Comment by AveryZan

When you learn the glyph it is called Death Strike rather then Dark Succor under Major Glyphs. Confused me.

Comment by aislingual

ALERT! : Number Crunching Below:

This glyph is a bit ridiculous for a blood DK in any environment where max threat from blood presence isn't necessary (aka PvP, questing, or instances you're overgeared for).

To summarize: blood shield allows a stacking physical absorb that is easy to get to say, 120% of your death strike heal using moderate mastery gear. This means that with one death strike using this glyph, you will heal 15% of your health and absorb an incoming 18% of it.

If you have 100,000 health then you have just blocked 33,333 physical damage with a single death strike. Bear in mind that the death strike does damage. If it hits for only 7k then that means that in ONE death strike you just did a damage+heal of ~40,000 health.

But to put it in better perspective, a dk can death strike every 5s or so, possibly more with lucky runic empowerment procs. As such, to actually DO ANY DAMAGE to a death knight with 100,000 health, you would have to be dealing *at least* 6,666 DPS (33,333 divided by 5 seconds). This is the bare minimum upon which you can actually start to do ANY damage to the death knight using physical attacks.

The higher your stamina and mastery, the more potent this becomes at an alarming rate. Bone Shield only loses charges if you take actual (non-absorbed) damage, and thus you can keep your 20% damage reduction active in many circumstances, adding even more insult to injury (while Bone Shield is active, the minimum physical DPS necessary to begin actually hurting the DK given the above scenario is 8,000 DPS).

Absorbs provided by a discipline priest healer helps in keeping Bone Shield up - if you can sustain the Bone Shield then your mitigation will actually surpass that of using Blood Presence - not being crit-immune is offset by the fact that the crits are going into an absorption barrier instead of into your actual health pool.

And again, Death Strike actually does a good amount of damage and the death knight is probably in Unholy Presence, taking advantage of a hasty 1 second GCD.

Comment by 775719

I just now learned this Glyph and i cant seem to find it on my glyph list? Ive open a ticket but no response yet from good ol' Blizzard? is it still too new that they didn't even put it in the list of glyphs for Death knights?

Comment by aislingual

Blood shield will no longer work with this glyph in 4.1, sadly.

Comment by 14605

This is why blood shields is getting nerfed next patch. In the next patch, blood shields only activates in blood presence effectively making this useless to blood DKs and providing Blizz's intent which was to make death strike still appealing to Frost and Unholy.

Comment by FlayOnDarkIron

Getting nerfed again in 4.2 to essentially be a weaker version of Victory Rush. It might even bad as bad as WoG is now..

All I have to say is: Welcome to the paladin party, death knights. We were getting kinda lonely here by ourselves.

Comment by Heffladin

blizz said: you better kill that dk whose critting you for like 10 k, while healing himself for 20 k per hit of DS, before his runes recharge, lol. this is totally balanced. yep. totally entierly balanced.

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Comment by AveryZan

this is pretty worthless now other then soloing while lvling and even then its not that good either. oh well. time to use a different major glyph

Comment by PriestessAur

In Mists of Pandaria this glyph has changed.

OLD: Glyph of Dark Succor - Your next Death Strike performed while in Frost or Unholy Presence, within 15 sec after killing an enemy that yields experience or honor, will restore at least 20% of your maximum health.

NEW: Glyph of Dark Succor - When you kill an enemy that yields experience or honor, while in Frost or Unholy Presence, your next Death Strike within 15 sec is free and will restore at least 20% of your maximum health.

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