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Comment by 193524

Sorry i deleted my post by misstake. Jetstream was replying to that post.
Yea your right about 16 days cooldown, my misstake.

I wrote something like:

It will be more like Primal Mooncloth Bag

Glacial Bag
4xEbonweave
4xMoonshroud
1xEternium Thread

This makes up to a total of 16days/bag cooldown if you not specced or trade them.
You can get down to 8days/bag cooldown if you trade Spellweave for the ones needed.

So you might consider farming gold now for "Gigantique" Bag

But since it's only in beta yet, we can only speculate. They can still change alot until it goes live.

Comment by 84526

This bag, seemingly the 'basic' tailoring bag of WotLK, is significantly more difficult to make than the Burning Crusade equivalent was, Netherweave Bag (24 netherweave cloth and 50s - easily and cheaply mass produced). This bag requires 90 Frostweave Cloth to make the 6 Bolts if imbued.

No doubt Blizzard are reluctant to have everybody running around with full 20 slot bags.

However, for those with a bit of cash and a of need the extra bagspace, this will be well worthwhile and cheaper than the Burning Crusade 20 slot bag.

Comment by 167938

Once Patch 3.0.8 comes out, the prices will go down per bag:

Bolt of Imbued Frostweave now requires 2 Bolt of Frostweave instead of 3;

You still need 6 bolts of Imbued to make the bag; Since each bolt of Imbued Frostweave = 2 bolts of Frostweave and 1 bolt of Frostweave = 5 Frostweave cloth, the new total cloth needed now will go from 90 frostweave cloth to 60 frostweave cloth.

To buy the mats on the AH: (all prices are from the average wowhead price; server prices may vary): If cloth is about 1g , the Infinite dust is 5g and the thread (3g each) from the venders:

Comment by 138498

Just some quick math now that the bags are only 60 cloth each (blatantly copied and edited from blupache's earlier post):

For 4 bags (one character's inventory)
- 240 Frostweave Cloth (12 stacks)
- 48 Infinite Dust (2 stacks & 8)
- 8 Eternium Thread

For a full bank (seven slots)
- 420 Frostweave Cloth (21 stacks )
- 84 Infinite Dust (4 stacks & 2)
- 14 Eternium Thread

Hence for one toon go from zilch to fully decked out (4 in inventory, 7 slots in the bank)
- 660 Frostweave Cloth (33 stacks)
- 132 Infinite Dust (6 stacks & 12)
- 22 Eternium Thread (1 Stack & 2)

And as an aside bags are currently 85-90g on my server (frostmourne (oceanic)). I'm expecting this to go down to reflect the lessened cloth price, as they were about this price for the last few weeks.

Comment by 320650

I don't get understand how people can sell these bags for 90g.

On my server (Boulderfist-US) it's a bargain to buy a stack of Frostweave for 10g. Usually they go for 13 - 15 gold. Infinite dust is about 5 - 6 gold. So going by Striker511's calculations:

60 Frostweave cloth = 3 stacks * 10g = 30g
12 Infinite Dust * 5g = 60g
2 Eternium Thread * 3g = 6g

So the cost to make is 96g, and notice I used the lowest mat cost possible. Now explain to me how in the world are people selling these for 90g at the AH?

It makes no sense. Even if they are farming the mats you are losing money because you can sell the raw mats for more. Am I missing something here or are some people really bad with math / money?

Comment by Quttan

The goal of making these for most people isn't to sell them for a profit, but to level tailoring. These are still the easiest way to level tailoring for a long time and a loss of 10 gold for a level is the smallest loss out of a lot of the possible things you could make, except for the rare cloths which have a four day cooldown each.

Comment by phillymike101

People might not sell the individual mats on the AH because of the huge amount of those mats for sale - meaning your auction might not sell fast, if at all. Essentially, if raw mats were 100g and bags are selling for 90g, you ultimately pay 10g for the very high liquidity of the bag.

Worth it in my opinion.

Comment by xedd

Bigger Bags:
Glacial Bag - https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=41600
"Gigantique" Bag - https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=38082
Dragon Hide Bag - https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=43345

Comment by 84040

A reason that some people can sell these bags for what might seem like less than mat price is if they are enchanters and have a lot of infinite dust lying around. I always level my tailoring before enchanting so I haven't used all my dust to enchant stuff that could go into making imbued frostweave.

Comment by 293098

Also note, that this is the cheapest way to level your tailoring, maybe you loose 10g for each bag. This means it is still a lot cheaper than level tailoring with anything else.

Comment by Nougati

These bags are relatively huge enough.
They can hold 20 different weapons.
They can hold 200 10 stack trade goods.
They can hold 400 20 stack trade goods.
They can hold 2000 100 stack reputation medallions (Assuming there isn't any trade goods with such a stack).
And they hold 5000 250 stack reputation medallions, or whatever.

These things are quite big, I just wanted to put an emphasis on it.
Just imagine the things you could do with a 22 slot :D

Comment by Eaglesight

Here is a complete breakdown of materials for Frostweave Bag as noone has posted it.

1 Frostweave Bag
___ 2 Eternium Thread
___ 6 Bolt of Imbued Frostweave Cloth
_____ 12 Infinite Dust
_____ 12 Bolt of Frostweave
________ 60 Frostweave Cloth

Comment by FuxieDK

Tailors should sell for 150-175g each bag - check and recalc your prices per your server mat costs; If you get the mats yourself and ask a tailor to make, don't forget a tip :D

Your calculation is both right and wrong...
While the price for the mats are resonable, you will NEVER get over 100g for a bag.. Average price is around 80g.

This is a classic example of "mats are more expensive than the finished product".. You see it for more or less every crafted BoE item in game..

Comment by 338368

If you are buying the mats yourself then it costs about 85 gold (on Frostwhisper horde, 30.8.09).

The bags themselves already made are currently costing 88g.

Add in the cost of the thread and its currently more expensive to make them yourself than to buy :-P (assuming you are buying mats ofc and not gathering yourself).

Comment by 390549

A handy way to do it if you can get cheap/farm cloth is to make a few Duskweave Wristwraps and DE them, they reliably break down into 4-8 Dust (on the odd occasion 1-3 Greater Cosmic Essences).

My experience is 2 Wrists usually gives me the 12 dust, so 140 cloth gives me a bag on avg.

Comment by 223534

Add in the cost of the thread and its currently more expensive to make them yourself than to buy :-P (assuming you are buying mats ofc and not gathering yourself).

Actually even if you grind the mats yourself it still 'more expensive'. By 'more expensive' I mean you would have less gold in stock making this bag yourself, since you can sell the mats, buy the bag and end up with more gold.

Comment by drdoom5081

With the random heroics now, mats for this have gone down considerably.

Comment by gothnate

Seeing as all cloth will have their cooldowns removed in 3.3.3, my realm has been seeing a lack of these bags on the AH. I'm wagering everyone is stockpiling Frostweave Cloth just waiting for this change. It's been a few weeks since I've seen a Frostweave Bag on the AH. It would be a good time to post some for extra gold if your realm is short on them.

Comment by Ztrl

Lame question maybe, though I'm starting to doubt, so here it goes..
Can anyone confirm that they've created these from skill level 448 till 450? 'Cause I've made over 20 now, and I'm still where I started, at 449. Annoys the crap out of me! D:<
Cheers, :o)

Comment by 554960

Where are these dropped at?

Comment by 286243

some how in dalaran trainer doesn't show in the train list. do you guys another options to learn it?

Comment by skrator

I agree with Alicy, the price of these bags has skyrocketed. on my server mats cost about 170-200g to make a bag, and i have sold them for 350g. I wonder if the old days of 50g will every return.

Comment by T3rry

i doubt it, frostweave is not as easy to come by anymore because people aren't constantly grinding in areas where it drops.

Comment by aaliyana

My server, most people have a ton of money I guess. There was a bag on the AH for 1300g that actually sold. I know what my tailor is doing this week!

Comment by Avalionis

these are going for roughly 150-300g per bag on Duskwood. glacials are around 300+, and abysal/embersilk bags are the same as glacials...if not more. and I doubt the price of these will go down anytime soon.

Comment by 690497

Sellinfor 200g on my server for 1 bag - i found a guy who said with my mats, he charges 100g... ppl are greedy T_T

Comment by 934287

On Ghostlands i see these regularly got for 200+g and its insane
Nets me a nice profit though when i sell them.

Comment by 331764

These sell for 500g on my server (Dragonmaw EU) now days. i - n - s - a - n - e.

Comment by 1010814

The Frostweave Bag isn't a good as the 20-slot Bag, because you can use the 20-slot Bag at level 1. But you can't with the Frostweave bag.

Comment by Allakhazam

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Comment by Allakhazam

Mail it to him.

Comment by Allakhazam

Hello,

I want to give one of my Frostweave bags to a friend?

Comment by Allakhazam

+ 60 Frostweave cloth
+ 12 Infinite dust
+ 2 Eternium Thread

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