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Comment by 84526

The Hydraxian Waterlords is the faction for reputation from the 40-man Azerothian raid Molten Core.

Comment by 48132

This will probably be the hardest reputation achievement to get since you only get rep in MC, you need someone with the essence already, and rep is not fun to get.

Neutral to the end of Friendly you can do repeatable quests that bring you from Azshara to EPL / Silithus (edit: linked the quests) and back again, as well as get 1-5 rep per nonelite elemental you kill in Silithus or Burning Steppes.

From Honored to the end of Honored, only the elemental bosses in UBRS/BRD, a rare spawn in silithus, and MC trash mobs give rep. This will take a while since you only get 15-40 rep per mob.

After Honored going into Revered, you only get rep from bosses. 100 each, 200 for Rag, and 150 for Golemagg. That's about ~205-208.5 boss kills from Revered to beginning Exalted, which is about 19 runs, and since MC resets only once a week, that's about 15-19 weeks for Revered to Exalted ALONE.

Now when you get to maxed Revered, the only bosses that can get you 0-999 Exalted are Rag and Golemagg, which means about 4-5 MORE runs just to max it out, which in turn means another 4-5 weeks.

There are a couple other quests than the repeatable one, though as far as I can tell they do not give HW rep, except for https://www.wowhead.com/cata/quest=7486 which gives 500.

All in all you're looking at a good solid 24-30+ weeks MINIMUM to get from neutral-max exalted.

PLEASE NOTE:: this is the ONLY way to get rep as of 9/09/2008, and reputation numbers are from level 60, these could have gone down from 70 and 80, making the achievement even MORE difficult to achieve.

Comment by Djuntas

You will get 1050 for FULL run if im not mistaken :) 7 bosses that gives 100 rep and 1 boss that gives 150 and 1 boss that gives 200 rep.

Edit: After reverd thats it. See post above me

Its hard to grind if you didnt raid Pre-BC :)

Comment by 180024

I did MC for the fist time a few days ago, we only skipped a few trash mobs. I went from neutral to about 60 rep into friendly. so about 3k rep in a full MC run give or take.

Comment by orionshock

If i remember correctly the trash in the raid will respawn even after the bosses have been killed. So one could go back after clearing the instance and do the trash nearly every day and get rep that way.

Comment by Argias

Good news, brahs.

This impossibly impossible achievement is getting fixed.

SOURCE: http://blue.mmo-champion.com/12/7190890148-hydraxian-waterlords.html

Thanks for your query, which was passed along to our development team. This has been taken under consideration, and in a future patch creatures associated with the Hydraxian Waterlords will give full reputation irrespective of your character's level. :-)

Comment by keeleeray

Killing Desert Rumbler (In Silithus) at level 56 gives you 5 reputation. Not sure how that works out for higher levels.

Comment by Veneluure

Clearing all the trash in Molten Core (and leaving bosses up) while grinding your reputation to revered, grants you roughly 2500 reputation per run. So grinding yourself from neutral to revered, takes 7-8 runs.

Comment by 54499

For a reason unbeknown to me the reputation gain stopped at 20999/21000, it was only after I remade a raid group ( was soloing the instance before) that I was able to get exalted. So in order to save yourself some time and frustration. Please make sure you are in a raid group, just to get past the 21000 hurdle.

Comment by Shashos

@Davey1971

The fact that you can pretty easily solo MC with just about any class now makes getting the Rep easier than ever. Combine that with the Rep Guild perks and the grind is not nearly as long as it used to be back when the rep truly mattered.

Been solo clearing trash/bosses for the last couple of weeks or so and got easily to Revered, got the right Windseeker Bindings, and lots of gold from drops.

Once you hit Revered, yeah, it feels sloowww, but honestly, run it once a week, then forget it and do the other stuff in-game that you'd be doing anyway. There is nothing -hard- about it. It's just your impatience at issue here.

Comment by Deadbeat85

At 85, this rep grind isn't anywhere near as painful as it used to be.

First step is to get to max friendly - you can get up to 5999/6000 friendly from the elementals in Silithus and Burning Steppes elementals. The best place for this is the North-West of Silithus killing Desert Rumbler and Dust Stormer for 5 rep each - 11 for two with +10% rep guild perk (Mr. Popularity, guild level 12). Running a loop around where the elementals spawn should allow you to kill all of them and get back to the start just about when they respawn. A couple of hours here can get you the 8999 rep you need - 1800 kills at base value, 1637 with 10% bonus. Huricanian spawns around here too, worth 25 rep at base value.

Once you're 5999/6000 friendly, head on over to Molten Core - you'll be here for a while. Trash mobs will give you between 15 and 20 rep per kill EXCEPT Core Hound. All sources seem to suggest these give 20 rep per kill, but not one since I started this rep grind has given up rep. A full clear will get you about 2400 rep, or about 2600 with the aforementioned perk. This means you'll need to do this at least 5 times to get from 5999/60000 friendly to 11999/12000 honored, when these mobs stop giving rep. For the sake of efficiency, avoid all bosses - you can kill every trash mob in the raid without pulling a boss, the only tricky part being Baron Geddon, who roams around a patrol route. Watch where he moves - you can actually stand in the middle of his loop, just North of Shazzrah, and have him roam around you without getting aggro. Pick off the groups around the room and drag them back to the centre to down them. Once you're moving on, stay on the right hand side while he moves up the narrow slope and move to the left when he passes and comes back the other way. Pull groups from one side to the other as you make your way up and dash past the narrowest part when he's on the way down.

As a ret paladin, I'm running a full trash clear in a little over half an hour (ilvl 359). Giving time for faffing, it should take you about 3 hours to make your way through Honored. On your final run, once you hit 11999/12000 honored, you can head back to the start and down the bosses - only they will give you rep now, and you can kill each one once per week. Killing all 9 bosses in Molten Core will get you 1050 rep, or 1155 with Mr. Popularity, meaning it'll take 21 weeks at base level or 19 weeks with the perk. Annoyingly, The final trash mob will leave you at 11999/12000 honored, so clearing all bosses 20 times (20 weeks) should leave you at exactly 20999/21000 revered. I'm not sure if you need to kill Golemagg the Incinerator or Ragnaros for that final point or if the regular bosses are enough to hit Exalted.

After that, it's another 3 weeks killing those two to get the pointless but pretty 999/1000 Exalted status. Congratulations!

Comment by 347714

Handy trick for grinding Hydraxian Waterlords reputation for the Hydraxian Waterlords achievement in Molten Core:

If you stand at the entrance to the zone, you still receive reputation for all boss kills done by other members of your raid, regardless of your location in the zone! However, by remaining in one place, you can drop a Battle Standard of Coordination, and stay within 100 yards of it. This allows you to actually get the 15% reputation bonus from the Battle Standard of Coordination for every boss in Molten Core, especially since - without moving - the Battle Standard of Coordination stays out for 15 minutes and has only a 10-minute cooldown, ensuring 100% uptime.

This appears to be a unique feature of using Battle Standard of Coordination in Molten Core, where you get reputation credit for boss kills just by being anywhere in the zone, eliminating the requirement for you to be near the boss, which in turn eliminates the need to actually have the Battle Standard of Coordination near boss, either.

Of course, it requires having at least one other player in the raid who can actually kill the bosses while you stand near your Battle Standard of Coordination; nonetheless, a 15% bonus to all bosses can dramatically shorten the time to grind, especially the brutal rep-from-bosses-only part from Revered to Exalted... if you've got a friend who can help!

Note that the reputation bonus from Battle Standard of Coordination stacks with Mr. Popularity.

Comment by crazeheals

I started grinding this faction way back in December and stopped at 12.000/21.000 to exalted. Right now I'm at 16.300 and believe me it's a borefest. If you're a priest like me get yourself a friend (rogue/melee in general) because of the possible drop binds (only saw Garr's in like 20 runs), still no eye from Raggy as well.

Just try to not fall to the boredom like I said and eventually once you hit exalted you will forever leave this place alone.

Quick edit: remember to always kill the Molten Destroyers (4 of them are guaranteed to spawn at Garr and 2-4 in the vicinity) they drop blood of the mountain which sells for 500-1000 gold a piece (needed for the Sulfuron hammer). You can soft reset the raid (logging out 30 mins or more) to have these guys respawn which will make the transition from neutral to revered faster.

Comment by Buhh

I am Troll Mage in Ice Spec for MC. full run gave me 1328 rep at revered and in a level 25 guild
Trying to maximize rep gains I decided to use Battle Standard of Coordination on every boss (excluding Executus as he yields no rep).
It mean killing more trash than usual and killing it to clear between bosses prior to killing bosses.
I went to Lucifron and Magmadar. Killed three packs of Core Hound between them using Blizzard. DPS'd Lucifron to 20%, dropped the Battle Standard of Coordination and killed them both(127+126 rep).
Went to Gehennas and cleared trash from there to Garr. Then I killed them both.(127+126 rep)
Went to Baron Geddon and cleared out the trash to Shazzrah carefully without pulling Baron Geddon. I had a few minutes wait time here for the Standard CD. Engaged Baron Geddon and dropped standard at 10% before killing him. Then proceeded to kill Shazzrah.(127+126 rep)
I went to Sulfuron Harbinger and cleared all trash from there to Golemagg the Incinerator. Then I went back to Sulfuron Harbinger. I started by killing the healers and then kited it close to Golemagg the Incinerator. At 10% I dropped the standard, killed Sulfuron Harbinger, turned around and killed Golemagg the Incinerator.(127+189 rep)
Then proceeded to Majordomo Executus - normal fight, no standard as you don't kill the boss(killing all the adds only). Then I went to Ragnaros started the intro, and just before the fight started dropped the standard, popped everything to get it over fast (he died before my TW was over)(253 rep)
So to sum up, I only had to wait before Baron Geddon for the standard, however I got to kill more trash than I usually do.

For mages:
I recommend Frost spec here because the Water Elemental is very handy for keeping the boss occupied while I kill adds(Lucifron and Gehennas), or the other way around (Garr, Golemagg and Executus). For the latter, throwing Freeze (Pet "frost nova") on the adds helps maintain agro on them. On Executus, I try to make it agro as many as possible, to only have to deal with one add at a time - requires a lot of targeting. Put it to passive when he gets teleported to the center before reenganging.
Using Invisibility carefully (use, wait 1-2 seconds, then shoot Ice Lance before the fight disengages) can also help put the agro back to the WE
I use Mirror Images on Garr and Executus to make those fights a lot easier.
On Ragnaros, I stand near the "second" rock formation to get avoid getting thrown

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